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tcarey715
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 3:07 am    Post subject: Very Rookie Question Reply with quote

1. Why do I need a web server on my computer? (no i am not kidding)
2. Does this mean that I do not need to host this site with a third party hosting company?
3. Why does my very first ASP test give me a Windows prompt asking me if I want to open the ASP file or save it to disk? All I want to do is run the simple thing.

Thanks and be gentle.

TRC
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 3:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

With a webserver on your computer it lets you host a website off of your computer (meaning the files you put in the htdocs folder are the files that you are hosting). As for the ASP script, you need to download ASP first, your computer doesn't understand the syntax, the same goes for PHP, MySQL, Perl, etc. etc.

Hope that helps!
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tcarey715
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 3:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the help!

Aren't there security issues with hosting a website from my computer?
Where do I get ASP? I thought it was a language! (HA!)
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Glitch2082
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 3:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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aren't there security issues with hosting a website from my computer?


Yea, there are small ones but the only big one im personally concerned with is the bad url's (the /%5/windows/blahblah)

ASP is a language. You can only execute ASP (also php, etc) scripts properly by doing it from your webserver, so put them in the htdocs folder after installing ASP and then they will work (yourip/script.asp) (also if you want to do it offline use the localhost 127.0.0.1). You can get asp from here... http://www.asp.net/

Your computer itself can't execute them, only the server can.
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tcarey715
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 3:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks again!

Finally a responsive forum!!

So once I get ASP downloaded and installed, I should be able to host a website from this computer.

Is this a standard operating procedure for developing someone else's website? Not that I am anywhere near ready for that, but I can do straight html pages with success. All of my clients are hosted by third party hosting companies.

Any pros / cons anyone can think of?
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tcarey715
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 3:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just downloaded this :
Microsoft .NET Framework Version 1.1 Redistributable Package

from that site, installed it, and tried again with the simple page, but got the same response.

Is this the right download? It was about 23 MB.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 3:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So once I get ASP downloaded and installed, I should be able to host a website from this computer.


Yea, install Abyss Web Server, then download ASP, to install, go to the help file in the Abyss Console, and look for "How to add ASP Support", and follow those steps.

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Is this a standard operating procedure for developing someone else's website? Not that I am anywhere near ready for that, but I can do straight html pages with success. All of my clients are hosted by third party hosting companies.


A web server is mostly used for two things, a small testing server, or a server to launch a huge website without paying for hosting fee's. So with abyss (and every other server) you don't need a host, just a computer, you don't even need an internet connection to test scripts, but if your starting a site, use your IP as the address.

Hope this helps again!

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You need to install abyss and follow the instruction for the installation of ASP, your computer can't understand the syntax (or language) of it.[/quote]
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tcarey715
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 3:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you very much for all of your help!

Let me give all of this a try and see what kind of trouble I can get into!

TRC
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ScrappyDog
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 5:16 am    Post subject: Rookie Reply with quote

I'm a Rookie to all of this as well.

I started researching Dec 20th and I've actually managed to get a domain name, install and run my first web server (not an easy thing when you have a dynamic IP and an unhelpful ISP), learn about Ports, Firewalls and Routers (and the obstacles they create) and build and host my first website!!

And then I discovered this forum - sigh. I wish I'd known about it sooner because I'm very impressed with the level of knowledge here and the responsiveness of the help.

Thanks to everyone!

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gekko
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't make the mistake that I am knowledgeable at all but I have been running a website with Abyss for a while and I use
http://no-ip.org/services.php/page/free to give me a website address that isn't just my ip number. Basically it's a place where they redirect people to your website - for free - substituting an address for your ip number. If your ip is dynamic you have to adjust it at the website manually - though they do offer an automated service - which I believe is also free - but I haven't tried that out myself yet. I haven't explained it very well - so take a look to see if it will help.

I'm trying to get php and mysql installed which will make the site the bees knees - but I'm still at the pulling hair out stage - he he he he
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GagnierA
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 31, 2004 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good, I have yet another no-ip "advocate" in my midst! haha

I've been recommend it in other threads and people just argue with me, which is stupid and pointless....dyndns sucks, no-ip is far more superior.

And to address your uncertainty gekko, yes the automatic updating is also free...which is done with their downloadable client that runs in the system tray and monitors things and makes the necessary changes on their server regarding your IP address...which eliminates the need to change it through their site.

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ScrappyDog
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 31, 2004 6:15 pm    Post subject: Domain Name Reply with quote

You seem to have missed my point completely. *My tone is here is friendly - don't misunderstand me friend :*)

I have my own domain name.

no-IP.com only offers a free service to those wishing to take on their domain name as part of the new domain (ie you@yourdomain.no-IP.com

I don't want that service. I want a free service that forwards to my very own domain name - which dnsExit does - and no-IP does NOT.

One thing I have learned in this whole process, is read the fine print, and be prepared to learn from mistakes.

Anyway, nuff said on the topic. Any suggestions on how I can forward my traffic to my own e-mail server when I have a dynamic IP?? For Free?? With my own domain name??

Cheers!!
Happy New Year GagnierA and gekko and all others!
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tcarey715
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 01, 2005 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh now, look what I started ... i made a poopy!
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GagnierA
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 02, 2005 10:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol, it's no big deal....but it appears that my last post has been deleted. Not a big deal though, this topic is lame and shouldn't even be disputed. People will always choose to use lesser options that suit their desired skill/understanding/usage or whatever else the case might be. I, on the other hand, only recommend the best...which is why it urks me to see people telling others to use lesser alternatives...to each their own though.

:)
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