PHP Slow?

yvesvelazco01 · - Joined: 30 Mar 2003 Posts: 1

Hello Everyone

I'm sorta newby with Abyss Web Server. Been running it for almost a week now and for what I can tell so far! This kicks some serious a$$ compared to other web servers I have used. Easy to configure and maintain.
Anyways, my question is, does php scripting affect the load process time when the browser request for a page? Because it seems like when I request for a html page, it loads faster than a php. Is there some sort of tweaking that I can do at my end to make the php pages load faster?
Setup:
> Windows XP Professional
> Abyss Web Server
> PostNuke CMS
> MySQL
> Athlon XP 1600+
> 512MB DDR
>40GB ATA/100
>Cable Connection
> Dynamic redirection provided by 2mydns.com
Any suggestions or feedback is greatly appreciated!

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roadblock · - Joined: 01 Apr 2003 Posts: 3

php is a processing language. It takes the php page and processes it with the code, so it woulkd take longer to load because the page is being processed before it is sent to the connections

os17fan · - Joined: 21 Mar 2003 Posts: 531 Location: USA

A php script is a server side program that lives on the server lol you already know that but anyway when you run a .php script it might take awhile because wen you run a .php it runs the program from the server so what that means is, a .php goes through 2 stages it loads and it runs from the server and i think a MYSQL is needed for some scripts.

THATS BEST I CAN DO ! :D

Hope i explained it correct :lol:
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ko77ko · - Joined: 08 Apr 2003 Posts: 5

I don't know if I am right... I have 7 windows http servers installed - Apache, miniServer, HSWeb, Abyss, KFWeb, WebWeaver and Xitami... I made some tests (using the same PHP scripts) and I cannot say that Abyss is fast when we talk about PHP... In fact miniServer and HSWeb are the fastest ones ( occasionally 5 times faster than the others!!! ) but unfortunately they have no extended features. :(

nokiahackman · - Joined: 12 Apr 2004 Posts: 10

Got to say that so far I have been impressed with Apreliums web server - but I too have to complain about SLOW PHP scripts - although I am running a win98 p233 pc. When accessing an MS ACCESS database via a simple php script via odbc, it is taking 3 - 10 seconds before it displays the page. On the same machine, a dsnless connection to the same database via MS Personal Web server (ASP) is almost instantaneous. I know I am limited to the 10 concurrent user limit on PWS - but instantaneous is is much better that 3 - 10 seconds.

I know that PHP is scripted and since has to load...but so does ASP does it not. So why the difference in speed?

Unforutnately I cannot try AHTML - as it will not work with win98 for comparison. Sure...I need to upgrade my web serevr too to a better machine.

Water Is Clear · - Joined: 27 Mar 2004 Posts: 43

U shouldnt have a problem with slowness, just dont run so many applications using to much cpu power/ram and it will be fast,
Rendering should take like at most 1(even less) second with 500mhz+, 2-3seconds with 500 and below.
Ive seen a 1.4ghz render in 0.09seconds..
so you should be fine. also your upload speed matters...

hellraiser_rob · - Joined: 16 Oct 2003 Posts: 11

well at least its not as slow as asp, what a joke

aprelium · - Joined: 22 Mar 2002 Posts: 6800

nokiahackman,

The problem comes from the PHP ODBC drivers. They are known to be slow.
Why no using COM to access your MsAccess database (using ASP-like semantics):

j_browne · - Joined: 26 Mar 2004 Posts: 13

ooo, thanks aprelium!
I've been forced to do a site in Access because the client is hosted by Telstra Bigpond (Australia) and - lol get this - they don't offer a MySQL database with any packages.
One word: Bigpond Sucks At EVERYTHING! :lol:

I've only just started using ODBC (contract signed this a.m.) so it's not too late to change...

nokiahackman · - Joined: 12 Apr 2004 Posts: 10

Excellent...the COM stuff is much faster. Many thanks.

Have been considering MYSQL - would anyone recommend that on a win98 233 mhz with 64mb ram...and of course Abyss?

Foxified · - Joined: 13 Apr 2004 Posts: 487 Location: Canada

itll work fine, just a lil slow, but probably _bearable_ as long as u dont have many cpu whoring apps ;)

iNaNimAtE · Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2004 3:16 am Post subject:

I used to run a mySQL database on a 133MHz processor; and it went fairly fast (2-3 seconds). One thing people have failed to mention is the internet connection. Usually, your internet connection is the more prominant deciding factor than the computer.
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aprelium · - Joined: 22 Mar 2002 Posts: 6800

nokiahackman,

You'll find in the MySQL directory a file called my-small.cnf that you can use as a template for your MySQL configuration file. It contains settings that are recommended for a small computer.
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greywolf · - Joined: 12 Feb 2004 Posts: 9

OK, I can be like some of the lamers on this site and take the easy way out and say Abyss sucks.
Unfortunatly that isn't the case, I know I did something wrong because Abyss works fine, no problems.
When I first installed E107 everything was fine. now I get.

Fatal error: Maximum execution time of 30 seconds exceeded in C:\Program Files\Abyss Web Server\htdocs\e107\e107_handlers\errorhandler_class.php on line 22

Sorry guys, I MUST HAVE DID SOMETHING. the first time everything whipped right along using http://localhost .
now this, ITs not ABYSS, Its not the computer, any suggestions?

greywolf · - Joined: 12 Feb 2004 Posts: 9

I knew I was retarded and it wasn't ABYSS. IN E107 I set up a newsfeed wrong. slowed me up drastically, now everything is snapping back in place like it should be! The Cyber Police should come to my house and arrest me for being to stupid to own a computer.

iNaNimAtE · Posted: Mon May 10, 2004 11:48 pm Post subject: Re: PHP IS NOW SLOW

greywolf · - Joined: 12 Feb 2004 Posts: 9

Yep I know, thanks. But that had nothing to with it. Normally when I refresh
E107 it takes about 1 - 2 seconds. All of a sudden it was taking over 1 minute 20 seconds. When I shut the news feed off, it works fine. I THOUGHT it might have been a setting in ABYSS but I can duplicate it by turning that e107 option back on. Now I gotta figure out why thats doing that.

iNaNimAtE · Posted: Tue May 11, 2004 12:44 am Post subject:

Who is the news feed coming from? If it is from another site that doesn't have very much bandwidth, then that could be your problem.
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greywolf · - Joined: 12 Feb 2004 Posts: 9

OK, you must know something about me, I can't leave well enough alone! I typed in http://www.yahoo.com into it. LOL, that did it. I got e107 running perfectley now. I give it 4 stars, AByss gets 5 stars, I am now trying to figure out why I get a blank page on PHPnuke. Unfortnutley Aprelium forums gives me to much to do and so little time! On to the next problem!

iNaNimAtE · Posted: Tue May 11, 2004 2:10 am Post subject:

Just stick with e107 if you can get it to work. If you really want PHP-Nuke, then try reinstalling everything (MySQL, phpMyAdmin, and possibly Abyss).
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