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PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 3:28 pm    Post subject: MSN Messenger Reply with quote

Why do people set their status to away or busy all day? Its annoying. This is a screen shot from my list today. Whats the point in being online if you are not there to talk! I'm the only one set to online! (I added myself so I always have someone online :P)


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some of the people I know do it so they can say they were online all day, when they really weren't, or just like to annoy people.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I agree I sometimes do it but I reply to people when I return, 9/10 people I do talk to don't reply when they return.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sometimes they bump there mice or keyboard or Messenger will automatically sign you back up as online if you use your computer.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always set my MSN to away after 1 minute of no activity, that way if I forget, I don't get complaints that I never replied to people even though I was online.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 3:37 pm    Post subject: Re: MSN Messenger Reply with quote

Even my help list is the same!


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One would think with that many people at least one or two would acutually be online.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats what I would think but its a hot day so most are probably soaking up the sun (or the rain at the moment) or just can't be bothered to go on the computer.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What does it look like now?

P.S. I'm almost always online even if I'm away! LOL! :)
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

3 or 4 have come online now but thats about it! lol.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know I must be ONE of them 4 people! LOL! :D
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, lol, I'm not currently on the instant help account :P
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some people like to take messages on their computers while their away.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lol, weirdly you are on both of my lists as well :P
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyway, why are you using MSN Messenger? MSN Messenger sucks, too much ads, slow and unstable. And guess what, it's created by Micro$oft. Download Miranda IM, or Gaim if you use GNU/Linux.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's why I use Trillian, and cos I've got IM accounts with 3 services :)
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 8:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Anyway, why are you using MSN Messenger? MSN Messenger sucks, too much ads, slow and unstable. And guess what, it's created by Micro$oft. Download Miranda IM, or Gaim if you use GNU/Linux.


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That's why I use Trillian, and cos I've got IM accounts with 3 services :)


1. Linux is crap and I hate it.
2. MSN is easy to use and more people use it than AIM, ICQ etc.
3. Who cares about the adds... HACK THE B*****D LIKE EVERYONE ELSE DOES!
4. I just generally don't care what I use, as long as I can talk to people.

(By the way, don't start arguing about Linux and Windows and which is better, I've heard it all before!)[/quote]
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I set my MSN to away most of the time, otherwise I get flooded with conversations and pissed off.
But yeah, I see what you mean =P

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perhaps people just don't want you to bother them ;)
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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1. Linux is crap and I hate it.


Linux is better, this is just fact. Yet, the computer-world is totally run by the big company that created Windows. Most of the people using Windows use these arguments;

- It works
- It's easy
- Everyone's using it

Well guess what, it's easier on getting help with Linux than with Windows! If you get stuck with Windows, you make a bug-report and in a few days/weeks/months/years there will be an update that fixes this. But what about the time when you can't do anything about it? You just sit there. In Linux, you post the problem on a forum. In a coupple of hours there will be a step-by-step explanation on the problem, and maybe even a piece of code that fixes this for you.

Linux is free, you can use Windows applications in Linux. You can communicate with a Windows based network in Linux. You can pretty much do everything in Linux as you can do in Windows, except the games. But why stick to an OS that crashes when you try to edit/develop something when there is a better choice to use during these times; Linux. Linux is free, Linux is easy to learn and Linux has everything.

"But what about the office applications in Windows, that I want to use?"
There is an application to Linux called Open Office to fix that one.
"What about mp3, surfing and watching movies?"
xmms, amaroK, Kaffeine - choose your own, there's lots of them.

When you buy new hardware, you always get some kind of software included to run the hardware "in a better way". These applications are always for Windows, so you wont be able to use the hardware in Linux, only in Windows, right? No. There is software for everything in Linux. Everything is also open source, so you can edit it and learn by it as much as you want.

Linux is;
- Faster
- Working
- Better
- Easier
- More user-friendly
- Open source
- Free

The Linux-market is huge, there is a lot of versions to choose between. Gentoo, SuSE, Slackware, Knoppix, Mandrake, Damn small and Red Hat - just to mention a few. These are updated - constantly. About 70% of the users are developers, so you can actually say that the OS is developing itself.

There's plenty of programs to change the way your Linux works and what it looks like. KDE, GNOME and Fluxbox are just a few. You can edit the way they look just like you like it.

Since Microsoft wants to keep as many customers as possible, you can not access Linux based networks or Linux computers connected to a Windows based network. In fact, if you have both Windows and Linux running on your computer, you can only access Windows from Windows. From Linux you can access everything.

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2. MSN is easy to use and more people use it than AIM, ICQ etc.

MSN and MSN Messenger isn't the same thing. MSN Messenger is Microsofts MSN-client, MSN is the protocol. Of course I, like everybody, use MSN. But not the client. In Windows I use Miranda IM, and in Linux i use Gaim or Kopete. BTW, if you want the regular "MSN Messenger"-feeling in Linux, download aMSN. aMSN looks like MSN Messenger.
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3. Who cares about the adds... HACK THE B*****D LIKE EVERYONE ELSE DOES!

It's not just the ads, I don't like the feeling of "I'm using something that's not open source".
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4. I just generally don't care what I use, as long as I can talk to people.

"Who cares about the adds... HACK THE B*****D LIKE EVERYONE ELSE DOES!".
If I look at that text it looks like you want me to change to Opera? Well guess what, I won't.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cmxflash wrote:
When you buy new hardware, you always get some kind of software included to run the hardware "in a better way". These applications are always for Windows, so you wont be able to use the hardware in Linux, only in Windows, right? No. There is software for everything in Linux. Everything is also open source, so you can edit it and learn by it as much as you want.


No that's wrong, I installed Linux and couldn't get the network going as I couldn't find any drivers for my network card. Linux is not ready to become a real threat yet, as you need extreme patience just to get it to install.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a software for everything in Linux. You just have to find it.
It might be hard to configurate Linux, but when it's done, you take a backup and you don't have to ever do it again.

Anyway, I'm off. Gotta buy some Jolt Cola.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought I said DONT ARGUE WHICH IS BETTER!!! I DONT CARE!!!!
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cmxflash wrote:
There is a software for everything in Linux. You just have to find it.
It might be hard to configurate Linux, but when it's done, you take a backup and you don't have to ever do it again.

Anyway, I'm off. Gotta buy some Jolt Cola.


So then why was I told on a forum that their are no drivers for the Netgear EA201 Ethernet Card? Also Linux has destroyed the hard drive I installed it on to, I can't get rid of it's boot manager. I will NEVER be using Linux again!
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I will NEVER be using Linux again!


I'll beleive that when I see it!
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

olly86 wrote:
cmxflash wrote:
There is a software for everything in Linux. You just have to find it.
It might be hard to configurate Linux, but when it's done, you take a backup and you don't have to ever do it again.

Anyway, I'm off. Gotta buy some Jolt Cola.


So then why was I told on a forum that their are no drivers for the Netgear EA201 Ethernet Card? Also Linux has destroyed the hard drive I installed it on to, I can't get rid of it's boot manager. I will NEVER be using Linux again!


The bootmanager == Grub or LiLo?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="olly86"]
cmxflash wrote:
Also Linux has destroyed the hard drive I installed it on to, I can't get rid of it's boot manager.


I'm not going to get into the whole Linux vs Windows argument. Horses for courses... Use the tools you are happiest with to do your job/hobby.

However, a bit of research would have told you how to get rid of the boot manager you installed. You can either boot from a Windows 98 startup disk and do

fdisk /mbr

to write a new boot sector, or use a Windows 2000/XP CD ROM to do a boot to the recovery console and use

fixmbr

to remove it.

Same goes for the ethernet card. A quick google reveals that you should be able to use the generic NEC 2000 driver.

http://web.archive.org/web/20000517160540/http://geeks404.com/pc_mech/building/ea201-linux.shtml

There's a difference between something not working, and not knowing how to use it.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anonymoose wrote:
Same goes for the ethernet card. A quick google reveals that you should be able to use the generic NEC 2000 driver.


I tried that but it didn't work, the card was not identified after those drivers where installed.

cmxflash wrote:
The bootmanager == Grub or LiLo?


Grub
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