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clickmike
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 Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2005 3:38 am Post subject: Buffalo NAS |
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Hi, I would like to install the X2 web server on my Buffalo NAS. This NAS seems to have the necessary requirements but I am unsure how to install this software on it. Does anyone have any ideas? Has anyone tried something like this? The control panel of this device uses a web interface with full cgi scripting so I know it can do it it's just how.
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MonkeyNation
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| Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2005 5:53 am Post subject: Re: Buffalo NAS |
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| clickmike wrote: | Hi, I would like to install the X2 web server on my Buffalo NAS. This NAS seems to have the necessary requirements but I am unsure how to install this software on it. Does anyone have any ideas? Has anyone tried something like this? The control panel of this device uses a web interface with full cgi scripting so I know it can do it it's just how.
Txs Mike |
Whats an NAS?
Sure I could google it, but thats too easy.
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clickmike
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| Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2005 11:58 am Post subject: |
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clickmike
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| Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2005 12:05 pm Post subject: |
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A Network Attached Storage device can replace a server in most situations depending on your file needs.
Here is a photo...
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aprelium
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clickmike,
We have answered your question by email but unfortunately, your email address was not working and the mail returned to us.
Here is the message you should have received:
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> Hi, I would like to run your web server on my NAS and was wondering how to
> install it. I have the Buffalo HG250LAN and it seems to run a web based
> utility for it's set-up and administration so I believe it's capable, it's
> just how?
The idea of installing Abyss Web Server on a NAS is very clever.
Unfortunately, it is not as easy as it seems. Your NAS does not use a
conventional Intel processor and is powered by a special operating system.
So the executable of Abyss won't work on it (it's as trying to get a
software made for the Macintosh to run on your PC with Windows).
We've spent almost an hour looking for information about HG250LAN. It is
powered by a PowerPC processor and a special stripped down version of Linux.
So it is technically possible to have a version of Abyss Web Server running
on it provided that we can build it for this particular combination of
processor/OS. Abyss Web Server already runs on Macintoshes which use a
PowerPC processor and it also runs on Linux. So porting it to this NAS is
not a very tedious task. But to do so, we should have at least this NAS to
understand how it works and accepts new software and to test the specific
version of Abyss on it. Unfortunately, we do not have this device.
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clickmike
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| Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2005 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you for your reply. Sorry for any inconvenience with my e-mail, I was reconfiguring it and it was taking more time than I initially thought to propagate.
The special stripped down version of Linux seems to be running full web services on this device so my assumption would be that this device should have no problem with your app. I believe the full version of Linux would run more than web services and this device only needs certain limited functionality. This would reduce memory needs and cpu overhead.
I would be interested in experimenting with this type of install with my device but I would need to have a copy of the Linux version of your app. Is there a free version of your app in Linux? My other challenge or as far as I understand it is how to install the Linux app on the NAS. I could ask Buffalo technical support if they could show me how to install this app on the their device...what would you suggest?
As a side note, I would imagine that if we could get this to work, that both you and Buffalo could benefit greatly from this experiment. Buffalo would increase functionality on their devices which in this case is greatly demanded for this type of application. You would benefit also as this growing segment, NAS implementaton, would expand your market.
More and more small to medium companies and home users are turning to NAS for their networking needs as to replace their expensive alternatives of servers. It is expected that home networking sales are to triple in the next couple of years.
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MonkeyNation
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| clickmike wrote: | A Network Attached Storage device can replace a server in most situations depending on your file needs.
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Seen them, they looked kinda crappy.
You may as well get a cheap pc from a newspaper in install linux on it, but im sure there are benefits of a 'NAS'.
The linux version is on the download page I believe, try it.
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clickmike
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You cannot always judge a book by it's cover. This little device performs extremely well. Actually we have found it to be faster than our old 2Ghz server with Windows 2003. We have mounted it on the wall with our Wi-Fi equipment so real estate is no problem. This is a Gigabit NAS with Jumbo Frame support, only uses 12 watts of power and anyone can service this device. No IT guy is needed in the organization and fits in with our succession plan model.
In summary this device was only $400 vs. our $3500 server, is much faster, takes up a lot less room ( storage space ), a lot less power, and is much easier for maintence and use ( this affects long term IT costs ).
This device also includes a nice built in FTP server ( which is very fast ) and streaming media server to help you manage other important needs.
A built in web server would be the icing on the cake.
As you can see the advantages are great for most small to medium businesses and home networks.
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You could suggest this idea to the company making the devices software and see if they will implement it into the next version of the OS.
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MonkeyNation
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| clickmike wrote: | You cannot always judge a book by it's cover. This little device performs extremely well. Actually we have found it to be faster than our old 2Ghz server with Windows 2003. We have mounted it on the wall with our Wi-Fi equipment so real estate is no problem. This is a Gigabit NAS with Jumbo Frame support, only uses 12 watts of power and anyone can service this device. No IT guy is needed in the organization and fits in with our succession plan model.
In summary this device was only $400 vs. our $3500 server, is much faster, takes up a lot less room ( storage space ), a lot less power, and is much easier for maintence and use ( this affects long term IT costs ).
This device also includes a nice built in FTP server ( which is very fast ) and streaming media server to help you manage other important needs.
A built in web server would be the icing on the cake.
As you can see the advantages are great for most small to medium businesses and home networks.
Mike |
It depends what you intend to use it for I suppose.
Personally if I had a connection to match, id have a http, ftp and multiple irc daemons on a machine.
But my connection phone line is older than id like and cant get that fast internet.
If you had complete control over it (Im guessing you dont by what you've said.) I may like it more, but I still think an actual machine with a full blown OS would beter suit me, but its opinion, and Ive never used one for myself.
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aprelium
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The special stripped down version of Linux seems to be running full web services on this device so my assumption would be that this device should have no problem with your app. I believe the full version of Linux would run more than web services and this device only needs certain limited functionality. This would reduce memory needs and cpu overhead.
I would be interested in experimenting with this type of install with my device but I would need to have a copy of the Linux version of your app. Is there a free version of your app in Linux? My other challenge or as far as I understand it is how to install the Linux app on the NAS. I could ask Buffalo technical support if they could show me how to install this app on the their device...what would you suggest?
As a side note, I would imagine that if we could get this to work, that both you and Buffalo could benefit greatly from this experiment. Buffalo would increase functionality on their devices which in this case is greatly demanded for this type of application. You would benefit also as this growing segment, NAS implementaton, would expand your market.
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The idea is very interesting but to put it in effect we need the technical collaboration of Buffalo (or any NAS manufacturer interested in such a challenge).
The Linux edition of Abyss is generated for the Intel family of processors. Your NAS uses another type of processors (PowerPC). So even if both are Linuxes, each of them is made for a different architecture and the binary executable code made for the first won't work on the second.
So we need to have technical details and information about their version of Linux and its development tools to be able to rebuild the Linux version on their PowerPC chip.
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