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jer2eydevil88
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 9:42 pm    Post subject: Windows XP x64 Version? Reply with quote

Is there any work being done on a full 64bit version of this software?

I recently moved to XP x64 (Basically Windows 2003 x64) and I have since been looking to get full 64bit versions of all the software I used in XP Pro 32bit. I recognize there won't be much performance increase with the light load my little site gets but it would go a long way in stability since XP x64 is far from its more matured 32 bit cousin.


I figured i'd ask here before checking the sourceforge pagge and attempting to complie it myself.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 11:17 am    Post subject: Re: Windows XP x64 Version? Reply with quote

jer2eydevil88 wrote:
Is there any work being done on a full 64bit version of this software?


We're actively working on porting Abyss Web Server on 64bit platforms. But to be honest, this isn't on the top of our to do list since 64bit operating systems market share is still marginal.

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I recognize there won't be much performance increase with the light load my little site gets


Web servers is the kind of software that can gain no benefit from a 64bit platform: there is no need for huge chunks of memory (> 2 GB) and there is no need for intensive 64bit computations. So a web server in 32bit or 64bit mode will roughly have the same speed on the your XP x64.

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but it would go a long way in stability since XP x64 is far from its more matured 32 bit cousin.


It's probably the opposite: 32bit Windows platform is more than 14 years old while 64bit Windows is relatively new (less than 2 years if you count also Beta testing). Besides, stability is about the quality of the code inside the applications you use. It's not related to having a 16, 32 or 64bit system (if a driver is buggy, it will crash your computer no matter which Windows version you're using).

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I figured i'd ask here before checking the sourceforge pagge and attempting to complie it myself.


The code on sourceforge is a very very old version of Abyss Web Server (released circa 2000). The current versions released by Aprelium are different (the software has been rewritten) and do not share with that historical release more than a few lines of C code. So if you compile the code on sourceforge, you'll get a small web server with the bare minimum (it only serves static files).
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 2:36 am    Post subject: Re: Windows XP x64 Version? Reply with quote

aprelium wrote:
jer2eydevil88 wrote:
Is there any work being done on a full 64bit version of this software?


We're actively working on porting Abyss Web Server on 64bit platforms. But to be honest, this isn't on the top of our to do list since 64bit operating systems market share is still marginal.

Quote:
I recognize there won't be much performance increase with the light load my little site gets


Web servers is the kind of software that can gain no benefit from a 64bit platform: there is no need for huge chunks of memory (> 2 GB) and there is no need for intensive 64bit computations. So a web server in 32bit or 64bit mode will roughly have the same speed on the your XP x64.

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but it would go a long way in stability since XP x64 is far from its more matured 32 bit cousin.


It's probably the opposite: 32bit Windows platform is more than 14 years old while 64bit Windows is relatively new (less than 2 years if you count also Beta testing). Besides, stability is about the quality of the code inside the applications you use. It's not related to having a 16, 32 or 64bit system (if a driver is buggy, it will crash your computer no matter which Windows version you're using).

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I figured i'd ask here before checking the sourceforge pagge and attempting to complie it myself.


The code on sourceforge is a very very old version of Abyss Web Server (released circa 2000). The current versions released by Aprelium are different (the software has been rewritten) and do not share with that historical release more than a few lines of C code. So if you compile the code on sourceforge, you'll get a small web server with the bare minimum (it only serves static files).


Can you post a newer version of the Abyss Web Server code onto the sourceforge project page then? If you do, I'd go there and try compiling it myself. I have a dual-core 64-bit processor.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 3:37 am    Post subject: Re: Windows XP x64 Version? Reply with quote

b123 wrote:

Can you post a newer version of the Abyss Web Server code onto the sourceforge project page then? If you do, I'd go there and try compiling it myself. I have a dual-core 64-bit processor.


Abyss isn't open source.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 3:40 am    Post subject: Re: Windows XP x64 Version? Reply with quote

cmxflash wrote:
b123 wrote:

Can you post a newer version of the Abyss Web Server code onto the sourceforge project page then? If you do, I'd go there and try compiling it myself. I have a dual-core 64-bit processor.


Abyss isn't open source.


I would not have thought they'd willing distribute a paying software just like that in any case...

EDIT: Were you asking for X1 or X2 :P
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 10:10 am    Post subject: Re: Windows XP x64 Version? Reply with quote

b123 wrote:
Can you post a newer version of the Abyss Web Server code onto the sourceforge project page then? If you do, I'd go there and try compiling it myself. I have a dual-core 64-bit processor.


Abyss Web Server (both X1 and X2) is not open source. That's what we tried explaining in the following paragraph:

aprelium wrote:
The code on sourceforge is a very very old version of Abyss Web Server (released circa 2000). The current versions released by Aprelium are different (the software has been rewritten) and do not share with that historical release more than a few lines of C code. So if you compile the code on sourceforge, you'll get a small web server with the bare minimum (it only serves static files).

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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 12:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

With a 64bit version we don't have to use the WoW64 function, does that count anything? The less 23bit programs the system has to run the better?

Thanks
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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 1:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can 64bit Operating Systems run 32 bit applications? May sound dumb, but
I'm just wondering if they can.
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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 6:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Of cause they can. :)
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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 8:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Then why is that person complaining about a 64bit version? :/
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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

darkultra wrote:
With a 64bit version we don't have to use the WoW64 function, does that count anything? The less 23bit programs the system has to run the better?

Thanks

The WoW64 layer does not have an effect on other 64bit applications running on the same computer. It will simply act as a bridge between the 32bit applications and the operating system (which is in 64bit mode). So there will be a very little speed penality for 32bit applications but no impact on the whole system.
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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TRUSTAbyss wrote:
Then why is that person complaining about a 64bit version? :/


He isn't, he originally wanted a 64-bit edition of AWS.
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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's basicly what I meant, sorry if I used the term "complaining". Anyway
thanks for the information.
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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No problem. :)
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