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LionellNelson
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PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2004 8:55 pm    Post subject: total newbie Reply with quote

this may be blatantly obvious, but can someone tell me:

how do i view the website from another computer (not on the network)? is that even possible? someone plz help me,
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PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2004 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Use the internet IP of the computer running the server, or its router. You'll need to set up port forwarding if you have a router.

http://www.aprelium.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3806
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PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2004 11:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

and if you still have problems look at this:

http://www.aprelium.com/abyssws/faq.html#A1-2
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PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2004 1:21 pm    Post subject: Re: total newbie Reply with quote

LionellNelson,

Locally (from your computer), you can use 127.0.0.1 or localhost to access
the server. The full local URL is displayed in Abyss' main window (Local web
server URL).

To access your machine from another computer on your network (LAN), you
should use the LAN IP of the computer. Run the Windows command ipconfig in a
DOS command box to know this IP (it is usually of the form 192.168.*.* where
* are numbers ranging from 0 to 255). This LAN IP works only inside your
LAN.

To access the server from the outside, people should use your router's WAN
IP (or external IP). It is the IP assigned to it by your ISP. This WAN IP
can be known by browsing http://www.aprelium.com/ip from your computer. If
you have a router, you must configure it to forward incoming requests to the
web port to your computer so that Abyss Web Server can respond to them.

If your WAN IP changes often, You'll need to use the services of a free DNS
provider that can track those IP changes and give you a DNS name. We suggest
looking at http://www.dyndns.org or at
http://directory.google.com/Top/Computers/Software/Internet/Servers/Address_Management/Dynamic_DNS_Services/?tc=1 .
This way, you'll always access your server using an address like
http://www.yourserver.freednsprovider.com without paying attention to IP
changes.

If you have problems to make your server reachable from the outside, we
recommend reading http://www.aprelium.com/abyssws/faq.html#A1-2 .

Notice that if you are using Windows XP, you must correctly configure its
internal Firewall: open the control panel, select the Networking section and
open the properties of your network interface. Select the Advanced Tab and
press the Parameters button (it should be in the bottom of the page). This
button will open a dialog where you can allow incoming connection to some
ports. If Abyss Web Server uses port 80, check the Web Server (HTTP) line.
If it uses another port, press Add... and enter the number of the port Abyss
uses as the internal port (select TCP and fill the other parameters
following the descriptions).
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LionellNelson
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PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2004 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

can u tell me how i find out whether or not i have a router? i have comcast for my computer. i was thinkin of switching the ports, but i want to know if i have a router (and what that is?). thanx
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PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2004 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A Router is a network that allows more
than one PC in your house to connect
to the inetrnet , also its a good way to
keep your Dynamic IP Static !
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PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2004 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Er. Both of those statements are wrong.

A modem gives your PC a direct connection to the internet - it is a device used by the PC to connect to the net, and usually the PC will receive an internet accessible IP address. It provides no firewall protection or port forwarding etc.

A router gives your PC an indirect connection to the internet. It is a separate device and receives the internet IP address. The PC(s) connected to it will receive private IP addresses. The router routes network traffic to the internet as required. Most modern routers will provide some kind of firewall or port blocking by default.

The easiest way to find out which you have is give us the entire model number of whatever is connecting from your PC to your cable/dsl connection and someone will tell you. Alternatively, you could put the model number into google...
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PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2004 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

trustpunk : not so....a hub does this.....


lets put it this way ( a modem can be called many things):

especially if all these devices are all in ones....modem/router/hub/ etc....

take the billion router ....it is a router also a modem as well as a hub networking other computers in your lan.

for $99 aussie dollars ...this is the best bang for buck anyone can buy.

heheh ...im thinking of buying one me self when the isp's do some more price wars.....
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PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2004 12:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you have more than one computer, and they all have internet coming off the same line in the house, then you have a router. That simple.

Goose, hubs can be considered "dumb." They make a lot of unnecessary traffic on your network. Like this: When the hub gets a request, and then goes and gets the packets, it sends it to all the computers on the hub. The computers that didn't ask for the packets just disregard them, and the computer that wanted them uses them.

Hubs can make 2, 3, and even 4 times the traffic on your network, depending on the number of computers.
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