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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 11:02 pm    Post subject: I think i can host my own site Reply with quote

if i'm running my site from my home computer, is it mandatory to have a router? what would i need it for. all i need is a high speed connection, a domain name, abyss, a firewall, virus protection and thats it right? just wondering cause i recently rented a domain name and i don't think i want to host with that provider anymore i want to do it with the power of abyss!!!! 8O
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is not mandatory to have a router. A good firewall is great to have.

For domain names, I reccomend a free service called "ZoneEdit." To use this, you must associate your domain with ZoneEdit's namesevers. They show you how to do that on their website, www.zoneedit.com.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 12:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A router is not mandatory, but it is highly recommended. Routers are the best firewall protection you can get.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 1:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Routers are the best firewall protection you can get.


That can be debated, a nat router is great firewall maybe not the best.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 1:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well if you can think of a better idea, then I am more than willing to hear what you have to say.

After all, one cannot have too much protection.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 1:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was thinking about outbound protection.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 5:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

so a router is only needed for a external firewall? i'm confused, i thought routes were just for routing like your dsl or somthing. I didn't know they were firewalls too.

but thanks for the info
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 6:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Routers are made to route DSL or Cable, yes, but they also act as a firewall. 99% of routers today utilize something called NAT (network address translation). You can have multiple computers all sharing the same IP address. This also blocks people from the outside world getting in to a specific computer, because the router blocks the request.

Software firewalls essentially do the same thing (block the request), but since they are running on the Windows operating system, they are more prone to security holes and exploits.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I c. I'm using zone alarm now, so i guess i should get a router too. huh. Thanks for the info.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unless u have a spare old computer laying around, then you can make your own router ;)

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Hardware and Software router?
Ever wonder what you're going to do with that old 486/66 lying in the corner of your closet? Turn it into a router! There are several companies that have created versions of Linux that will fit on a floppy disk that act as routers and firewalls. These programs are usually free. Take that old computer, pop in two network cards configure the Linux router / firewall and you now have yourself reliable router. Sure it takes up more space (and electricity) than a modern hardware router, but at least that old 486 has new life!


http://www.freesco.org/ (software for it)
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It would be a fun project, but for some people, it is just too much work.

If you run ZoneAlarm now, you really don't have to worry; as long as it is set up properly. If you start obtaining more visitors, then a router would be a good buy; because the more visitors, the more of a security threat you have.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Router with NAT for being a "Firewall" is debatable. NAT is simple a natural so call firewall. A true firewall will inspect in / out traffic condition.

NAT is like hiring a basic security guard for the main entrance or barrier. It will pass any thing through as long you assign a simple pass like a port when some thing is trying to get in.
Traffic > NAT > request LAN IP PORT 80 > traffic > LAN IP PORT 80.
From above example, you simply tell your entrance security guard to let people in when they mention your apt complex and number.

Without any LAN IP and PORT, NAT simply will drop or ignore the request from the main entrance [Router].

BUT for firewall, traffic in question will have to meet the condition before passing through either in/outbound.

A good firewall will have set of filter or conditon and not simply IP and PORT or MAC.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2004 12:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

However, if you do not explicitly define port forwarding, then NAT will block all incoming traffic (that you don't request). And when it comes to just allowing Port 80 open (with Abyss), there isn't much you have to worry about.

Software firewalls are a lot easier to crack than a hardware NAT.
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