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How Do You Make Your Designs?
WYSIWYG Editor (FrontPage, Expression Web, NVU, DreamWeaver, etc)
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Write HTML and CSS with a Text Editor (Notepad etc)
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 11:27 pm    Post subject: How Do You Make Your Designs? Reply with quote

In an effort to spice up this forum section, I have a poll. I'm curious how everyone creates their web designs. I usually create my designs in Notepad++ (a text editor), it lets me have greater control and cleaner code.

Feel free to post your reasons for doing one or the other.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Notepad and Photoshop :)
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool, looks like many people still do it the old way (text editors).
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rrinc wrote:
Cool, looks like many people still do it the old way (text editors).


The old way? You mean -the- way ;-) You can never beat hand coded sites, not in a million years.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I mainly use Dreamweaver, but half the time I am using the text area instead of the design area. I just like to see the effects of everything right away, especially when applying css.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i use open web designs.. i do however use notepad when editing them and adding stuff.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 2:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aprelium.com's HTML/PHP/CSS files are "manually" coded using standard text editors (SciTE, TextWrangler, Windows Notepad, Smultron, mcedit, GEdit - it depends on the platform used by the coder).

To tell the truth, we do not code HTML by hand. We have an automated generation system based on XSLT templates. Pages are described in a special XML form, then they are processed by XSLT according to a given template, and HTML/PHP pages are generated.

The system is the result of 5 years of small incremental updates and enhancements. Today, it can with a simple script invocation build the site contents from a new template and upload everything to the web site without any manual assistance.

The site graphics are designed using Inkcape, GIMP, and Irfan View.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Click here for information on setting up your site (generated by Yahoo! Answers).
But I use the following tools:
Visual Studio 2008 Professional Edition (Beta).
Frontpage 2003.
Abobe Dreamweaver CS3.
My PHP Editor 2005.
Unwind Web Professional Edition 2007.
Notepad.NET 2008.
XML Editor 2005.
Java Runtime Enviroment suite.
Java Virtual Machines suite.
Java Commercial Developer Enviroment Engine Suite 2007 (JCDEES 2007).

All fully purchased!
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use dreamweaver, but I dont use the design view, I only use it because it has the drop down menu with all of the code items in :D
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 7:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AbyssUnderground wrote:
You can never beat hand coded sites, not in a million years.


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madman1337 wrote:
I mainly use Dreamweaver, but half the time I am using the text area instead of the design area. I just like to see the effects of everything right away, especially when applying css.


Dreamweaver uses.. its own broswer or it just makes IE look realllllly bad see as though it doesn't render your code like IE nor Firefox. =
abyssisthebest wrote:
uot;]I use dreamweaver, but I dont use the design view, I only use it because it has the drop down menu with all of the code items in :D


Genius imo. ;D
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dreamweaver, and Paintshop pro 7. However, that might change in a year or so. Right now I don't know how to just sit down and write a bunch of code and have a page up. But, I start my bachelors degree in "web design" at DeVry University tonight...we'll see what happens.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 5:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ChrisM2 wrote:
Dreamweaver, and Paintshop pro 7. However, that might change in a year or so. Right now I don't know how to just sit down and write a bunch of code and have a page up. But, I start my bachelors degree in "web design" at DeVry University tonight...we'll see what happens.


Good luck! Sounds exciting

Forgot to mention anything about my own habits...

Macromedia Studio 8 (i.e. Fireworks, Dreamweaver), Notepad/Wordpad (Wordpad does indenting/word spacing properly, Notepad does not - Grrrrr)

P.S. Tripple eigth post!
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 4:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Programmers Notepad for the win!

i can't get a feel for it slideing the things arround and for all the kick azz features ( such as just about anything useing Scripting, CSS, or comenting, you'd have to edit the code in the WYSIWYG editor anyways, so why waste the time?

i take it mose people use some sort of leveled up Notepad right?

-Vahn

p.s. imagine trying to edit a phpBB template in frontpage? -shutters-
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 5:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vahn wrote:
p.s. imagine trying to edit a phpBB template in frontpage? -shutters-


I can. it seems quite simple. People complain of Frontpage for the code it generates is neither standards compliant or easy to read. I learnt with it and although it wasn't a great starting point it has propelled me further than I would have imagined. Editing something such as a phpBB template in any program including Frontpage is not difficult as long as the program itself is designed to an acceptable standard. Frontpage is.

Anywho, Microsoft dropped the whole Frontpage thing and got moving with Microsoft Expression.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I started with save as... in WordPerfect. Later I used Frontpage.

Now I use PSPad to write my pages. Wysiwyg just can't beat handwritten pages.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HeLoC wrote:
Wysiwyg just can't beat handwritten pages.
I agree and the understanding of HTML it gives you is a huge plus.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 2:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

HeLoC wrote:
Now I use PSPad to write my pages. Wysiwyg just can't beat handwritten pages.


Welcome to the forums, HeLoC. I use PSPad a lot as well. It has syntax highlighting and a tabbed interface for projects. It's saved me hundreds of times on syntax errors and since it finds the ending tags when you click on the opening tag (like for div's, tables, php function braces, php parenthesis...). Very highly recommended FREE program!
URL: http://www.snapfiles.com/get/spad.html

Notepad rules! :)

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The site graphics are designed using Inkcape, GIMP, and Irfan View.

Freeware is the best!

I used Inkscape+GIMP to create the logo at http://baptistinstitute.org. The logo is made up of two clipart objects. The gradient light beam and BBIB were added with GIMP. The encircled text was from Inkscape. I wish I knew how to use Inkscape more!
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 6:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm using Notepad++, Notepad2 , MS Paint, and Paint.NET
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 6:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use Dreamweaver, Photoshop, MSpaint, Notepad, and Wordpad. Yes i use these very much.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 8:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Notepad++


I started out using Windows Notepad, and I tend to "nest" the HTML correctly, as in using tabs on "sub tags". That way a TR is over a tab from the TABLE, and TD is two tabs away. Well, tabbing and newline (enter) in Windows Notepad left a lot to be desired. Also, with Notepad++, it helps me align my curly braces when doing conditional loops.

I highly suggest it for any programmer.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 3:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah notepad++ is one of my favorites, but I really hate how it checks files everytime you change tabs...it hangs when I'm editing files over a slow network drive.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I either use Notepad++ or Eclipse EE (Enterprise Edition) depending on the file I'm editing at the time.

rrinc wrote:
Yeah notepad++ is one of my favorites, but I really hate how it checks files everytime you change tabs...it hangs when I'm editing files over a slow network drive.


This is the reason I edit all my files locally and then synchronise them back to the network drive.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just replaced Window's notepad with notepad2, so unless I have a reason to use notepad++ I just use "notepad".
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use a CMS. And I also use TextPad, Notepad++ and other text editors for file-by-file hacks.
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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I primarily use Notepad++ for coding, but writing a page from scratch is such a pain in the ass so I sometimes use WeBuilder - because of preview and coding features, it's much lighter on resources than Dreamweaver not to mention a lot cheaper!

For graphics I use Photoshop.

I have used gimp, other editors but always find my way back to notepad++ and Photoshop.

I would love to step toward something more dynamic like cms.

I'm such a neat freak, so I don't use WYSIWYG, because the code they output is a horrid mess. lol ironic no?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

notepad++ and coffee cup html editor.

notepad++ has a mod that recongnizes .tpl files for working with phpbb (or whatever) template files. nice mod

have been using coffee cup html editor for year (purchased it a long time ago).
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 8:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

not a real hardcore code person here so i used frontpage from 0ffice 2002 to build mine ..someone gave me office 2006 ? i think with a web builder on it and it would open the old site files but was jacked up so bad it would have to be rebuild..so i unistalled it , maybe will reinstall and redo it in the future (but looked like an ok software)..
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Real programmers use

Fully configurable, create your own shortcuts,... Can't code without it!
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 6:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For years, I have used a program called Siteaid. It is a pretty good text editor style program with some really good features that help me code correctly.

For a picture editor, I use The Gimp.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 6:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What I believe makes a good template is:

1. a clear, defined layout
2. modern, 'shiny' graphics
3. big text
4. browser-compatible, accessible design.


Hope that helps you!
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bumprly

I used to use this, which updates as you type with an integrated IE browser, like I said earlier, I use Notepad++ now.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 6:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use both of them. For strict Xhtml I prefer notepad other frontpage works for me
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use my web programming box, still using XP with Athlon and:

UltraEdit32/Code Compare--mostly
Dreamweaver--rarely
Paintshop Pro 7 and 8
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dreamweaver is extremely user friendly. The tutorial and help files are understandable.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

geaktoo wrote:
I use my web programming box, still using XP with Athlon and:

UltraEdit32/Code Compare--mostly
Dreamweaver--rarely
Paintshop Pro 7 and 8
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I use same but my work load is most on Dreamweaver. but Paintshop is of pro 7 only.. likely to update.. ;)
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PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2010 5:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Photoshop is a good way.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 5:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i got it done using WYSIWYG
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 10:41 pm    Post subject: Web Design....Conversion Design Reply with quote

I occasionally lecture at our local State University (Southern Utah University) about web design and development. It seems that one area that most designers overlooks is to understand what the user intent is when they are visiting a website. This intent even varies page by page.
Most clients request that we design something really cool, but really forget that the user simply wants to preform a simple action.
Understanding this intention and making it as easy as possible for them to do this will lower your bounce rates and also increase your conversions.
I highly suggest using Attention Wizards heat mapping tool (at least in the beginning) until you understand how contrast and visual attention prediction effect the end result of your website. I am not associated with them at all and I am sure there are other companies that offer heat mapping.

http://attentionwizard.com/
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2014 10:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always use dreamweaver and notepad. This is very comfortable for me.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2016 12:29 pm    Post subject: Both are user friendly Reply with quote

Dreamweaver & Photoshop both are pretty owsum for web designing.
I do normally use both of these. but you can use notepad ++. its also user friendly.
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