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vhsorless -
Joined: 25 Jan 2005 Posts: 45
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Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 10:15 am Post subject: Are you currently using Mozilla's Firefox as your browser? |
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I've been using Mozilla's Firefox browser for about two months now and I don't think I'm ever going to use Internet Explorer again. Firefox rocks!
I was just wondering how many of you other Abyss users in this forum are using Firefox and what you think of it. Also, if you've used both Internet Explorer and Firefox, do you find that Abyss works differently on either browser?
Just curious. Thanks for participating in my little poll. :) _________________ I.P. Daily,
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Systemsoft -
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Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 11:11 am Post subject: |
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Unfortunely, there is no browser with so much technology like Internet Explorer, and so much security like Firefox ;(
Sometimes I need to close Firefox for a while to check something in Internet Explorer. |
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Moxxnixx -
Joined: 21 Jun 2003 Posts: 1226 Location: Florida
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Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 2:08 pm Post subject: |
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I use Firefox 90% of the time. The other 10% is Opera. ;)
The only time I open IE is to check the layout of a site I'm designing. |
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olly86 -
Joined: 25 Apr 2003 Posts: 993 Location: Wiltshire, UK
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Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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I use Opera all the time, except for online banking with NatWest (they don't support it yet:( ) then I use IE. I do not trust FireFox enough to use it. _________________ Olly |
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Systemsoft -
Joined: 06 Jun 2003 Posts: 59 Location: Krakow, Poland
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Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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Why not? Firefox is very safe browser... |
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Glitch2082 -
Joined: 02 Dec 2004 Posts: 194
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Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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Firefox has more 'protection' so to speak. The only reason I don't like firefox is becuase it uses a lot more memory than IE. Right now I see FF using 19,492 kb. And IE is only using 9,000 kb. _________________ int main() {
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vhsorless -
Joined: 25 Jan 2005 Posts: 45
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Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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Glitch2082 wrote: | Firefox has more 'protection' so to speak. The only reason I don't like firefox is becuase it uses a lot more memory than IE. Right now I see FF using 19,492 kb. And IE is only using 9,000 kb. |
Are you using extensions, themes and/or plugins? That might be a possible reason why FF is using so much more memory. _________________ I.P. Daily,
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vhsorless -
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olly86 -
Joined: 25 Apr 2003 Posts: 993 Location: Wiltshire, UK
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Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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Systemsoft wrote: | Why not? Firefox is very safe browser... |
because I've got more control in the way IE behaves (via security applications), than FireFox. Plus FF uses far too much memory, and has the user interface appearance that software had in the mid 1990's.
on opening FF uses 15, 532 Kb that's much higher than both Opera, and IE. _________________ Olly |
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vhsorless -
Joined: 25 Jan 2005 Posts: 45
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Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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olly86 wrote: | Systemsoft wrote: | Why not? Firefox is very safe browser... |
because I've got more control in the way IE behaves (via security applications), than FireFox. Plus FF uses far too much memory, and has the user interface appearance that software had in the mid 1990's.
on opening FF uses 15, 532 Kb that's much higher than both Opera, and IE. |
Firefox is still being worked on, as this browser is not that old, but it's still not as buggy as IE. Plus, it doesn't use Active X.
Since I've been using Firefox, I've not had my browser hijacked, no spyware/adware has gotten installed on my PC (because you can pick and choose which sites are able to install software on your PC) and I've not had a browser crash: all things which happened while using IE, which incidentally, has been around for a looong time. _________________ I.P. Daily,
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vhsorless -
Joined: 25 Jan 2005 Posts: 45
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Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 9:20 pm Post subject: |
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Moxxnixx wrote: | I use Firefox 90% of the time. The other 10% is Opera. ;)
The only time I open IE is to check the layout of a site I'm designing. |
That RTFM icon is sooo funny! LOL! Mind if I use it? :) _________________ I.P. Daily,
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olly86 -
Joined: 25 Apr 2003 Posts: 993 Location: Wiltshire, UK
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Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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vhsorless wrote: | Firefox is still being worked on, as this browser is not that old, but it's still not as buggy as IE. Plus, it doesn't use Active X. |
but IE can also be configured not to use Active X, like my setup (unless the site is added to the trusted zone).
vhsorless wrote: | Since I've been using Firefox, I've not had my browser hijacked, no spyware/adware has gotten installed on my PC (because you can pick and choose which sites are able to install software on your PC) and I've not had a browser crash: all things which happened while using IE, which incidentally, has been around for a looong time. |
IE has not crashed on me, nor has it been hijacked, or spyware/adware got on to the system through IE.
Just because a browser is new does not make it better than a browser that's been around for a while.
Another thing I have a problem with is relying on a open source project to keep my security details private. With open source it is much easer for someone to find a security exploit, and exploit it. Without reporting it, how long would it take for it to be found and patched?
BUT Opera doesn't support Active X, and prevents spyware/adware getting in, and is very stable. The same as FF but with a nicer interface _________________ Olly
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TRUSTAbyss -
Joined: 29 Oct 2003 Posts: 3752 Location: USA, GA
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Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 10:14 pm Post subject: |
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The only thing I see wrong about IE is those dumb Security Warnings. Also
the fact that people can make you automaticly open dos prompts is bad.
.The CSS Specification is not complete
.Some CSS code is bad in other browsers. |
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NoName -
Joined: 05 Jan 2005 Posts: 88 Location: Lawton America
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Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 12:19 am Post subject: |
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Well i've been using FireFox since back in the day when it was called 'FireBird'! It has always been great(was a little buggy at first) but for the past 10-12months has been an awesome browser... I'm a die hard FireFox user and like some have said, i only open IE to test my layouts. FireFox uses less memory then IE on my computer(but i guess it varies from PC to PC). FireFox also loads faster on my PC then IE and i do notice an increase in speed when browsing... Although some say IE is faster for them. I guess it all varies on your PC and what you like... I prefer FireFox... (plus you can't beat tab browsing) :) _________________ -NoName
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HIWD -
Joined: 13 Apr 2004 Posts: 142 Location: Dublin, Ireland
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Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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IE is is an adware virus, anytime I go in the net with it I end up getting something or another. |
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TRUSTAbyss -
Joined: 29 Oct 2003 Posts: 3752 Location: USA, GA
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Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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I stopped using IE except to test my website layouts. LateR! :) |
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Systemsoft -
Joined: 06 Jun 2003 Posts: 59 Location: Krakow, Poland
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Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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Internet Explorer serve to browsing an Internet from your computer and vice versa ;) |
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vhsorless -
Joined: 25 Jan 2005 Posts: 45
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Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 10:14 pm Post subject: |
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HIWD wrote: | IE is is an adware virus, anytime I go in the net with it I end up getting something or another. |
You and me both! _________________ I.P. Daily,
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vhsorless -
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Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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If the good folks at Aprelium could create some sort of extension to include Abyss in Firefox's browser as the default web server, it would be sheer genius and another nail in Microsoft's coffin!
I wonder if it could be done? _________________ I.P. Daily,
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Arctic -
Joined: 24 Sep 2004 Posts: 560
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Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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Only people that like to get infected use IE. |
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TRUSTAbyss -
Joined: 29 Oct 2003 Posts: 3752 Location: USA, GA
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Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 11:57 pm Post subject: |
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vhsorless wrote: | If the good folks at Aprelium could create some sort of extension to include Abyss in Firefox's browser as the default web server, it would be sheer genius and another nail in Microsoft's coffin!
I wonder if it could be done? |
I would really recommend this extension , you click on a button in firefox
to show the Abyss Web Server console , I like the tab browsing the best. |
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vhsorless -
Joined: 25 Jan 2005 Posts: 45
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Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2005 2:19 am Post subject: |
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TRUSTpunk wrote: | vhsorless wrote: | If the good folks at Aprelium could create some sort of extension to include Abyss in Firefox's browser as the default web server, it would be sheer genius and another nail in Microsoft's coffin!
I wonder if it could be done? |
I would really recommend this extension , you click on a button in firefox
to show the Abyss Web Server console , I like the tab browsing the best. |
Hell yeah, that would be sweet! If the Abyss console could be integrated (for lack of a better word) into the Firefox browser and made skinnable, it could use the skins or "themes" that Firefox uses. Whooohoooooo!
The way Firefox is spreading, it could be a smart move, especially as it pertains to that new version of Abyss that's coming out soon (I hope). ;) _________________ I.P. Daily,
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NoName -
Joined: 05 Jan 2005 Posts: 88 Location: Lawton America
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Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2005 7:15 am Post subject: |
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Why would having this in FireFox help when it already runs in the taskbar, so its visable anyways. However, i think a good FireFox Plugin would be to display the status of Abyss(ex: in the status bar have like a 'red' or 'green' dot for if Abyss is running right, and then have the uptime there and you could click it to bring up the console... I think anybody with programming knowledge could do this. I currently use a few plugins for FireFox that display in the status bar(one is a Gmail Alert and another is a Weather Plugin to display icons of my weather, ex: storms, rain, sunny, etc, and my fav plugin lets me run Winamp from the status bar, so i don't have to keep opening Winamp to change songs, i just hit there)...
If somebody from Aprelium has knowledge to do this, or i might talk to a few buddies who mess around with FireFox plugins and see what they can do... I would love to have the Abyss status and uptime in my status bar. Just to keep me alerted to things. _________________ -NoName
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vhsorless -
Joined: 25 Jan 2005 Posts: 45
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Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2005 10:20 am Post subject: |
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NoName wrote: | Why would having this in FireFox help when it already runs in the taskbar, so its visable anyways. However, i think a good FireFox Plugin would be to display the status of Abyss(ex: in the status bar have like a 'red' or 'green' dot for if Abyss is running right, and then have the uptime there and you could click it to bring up the console... I think anybody with programming knowledge could do this. I currently use a few plugins for FireFox that display in the status bar(one is a Gmail Alert and another is a Weather Plugin to display icons of my weather, ex: storms, rain, sunny, etc, and my fav plugin lets me run Winamp from the status bar, so i don't have to keep opening Winamp to change songs, i just hit there)...
If somebody from Aprelium has knowledge to do this, or i might talk to a few buddies who mess around with FireFox plugins and see what they can do... I would love to have the Abyss status and uptime in my status bar. Just to keep me alerted to things. |
I'm talking about the integration of certain features of the Abyss console into Firefox's browser, and it sounds like you're talking about the same thing, so I don't know why you're questioning my post. lol.
I didn't really stipulate how it ought to be done, I just said that it would be nice if it could be done. Jeez. Anyways...
I also use the Gmail, Weather and FoxyTunes extensions. Good stuff. _________________ I.P. Daily,
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NoName -
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Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2005 8:13 pm Post subject: |
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Okay, sorry... I guess i missunderstood what you guys were talking about. Thats my fault. I thought you guys just wanted a button in FireFox to click to open the console... I didn't read anything about what features or whatever, so i wasn't sure... Sorry about the mistake.
Yeah, those 3 ex are the best. I would love to have the Abyss Status, Uptime, and whatever else you guys want, right next to my Weather... _________________ -NoName
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aprelium -
Joined: 22 Mar 2002 Posts: 6800
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Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 3:15 am Post subject: |
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Very interesting suggestions. We will add them to our list. _________________ Support Team
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vhsorless -
Joined: 25 Jan 2005 Posts: 45
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Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 3:35 am Post subject: |
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aprelium wrote: | Very interesting suggestions. We will add them to our list. |
Excellent! :) _________________ I.P. Daily,
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NoName -
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Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 4:13 am Post subject: |
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Awesome... This is what keeps me using Abyss over Apache. The support and community here on the forums... _________________ -NoName
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omaronly -
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Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 9:13 am Post subject: |
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I abandoned IE about 2 years ago almost exclusively because of the pop-up problem. I surf pretty hard and it really annoyed me. I started using Opera 6 and then 7. It is a great browser, but the ad-supported stuff started getting on my nerves, as well as not fully supporting Web Standards, i.e. full CSS compliance. I played with Firefox since 0.6 and started using it as my main browser at 0.9 and am fully comitted at version 1.0. I still fire up IE to check sites I design, but that's it. I've even found extensions which replicate some of the really cutting-edge features of Opera...now if they would just cut that fee or ads thing... I just don't see how they will be able to compete with a really great and full featured browser like Firefox. Notice, even with XP SP2, IE6 is still not in the running...will there even ever be an IE7 and will it finally support web standards?? |
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vhsorless -
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 5:53 pm Post subject: |
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omaronly wrote: | I abandoned IE about 2 years ago almost exclusively because of the pop-up problem. I surf pretty hard and it really annoyed me. I started using Opera 6 and then 7. It is a great browser, but the ad-supported stuff started getting on my nerves, as well as not fully supporting Web Standards, i.e. full CSS compliance. I played with Firefox since 0.6 and started using it as my main browser at 0.9 and am fully comitted at version 1.0. I still fire up IE to check sites I design, but that's it. I've even found extensions which replicate some of the really cutting-edge features of Opera...now if they would just cut that fee or ads thing... I just don't see how they will be able to compete with a really great and full featured browser like Firefox. Notice, even with XP SP2, IE6 is still not in the running...will there even ever be an IE7 and will it finally support web standards?? |
Sorry for the delay in responding to your post. I found this info on this page: http://www.blooberry.com/indexdot/history/ie.htm
When the newest version of IE ("IE7"?) finally comes shipped with Microsoft's next operating system (currently code-named "Longhorn"), it will have been about 4 years since the release of IE6. Microsoft's browser is currently firmly entrenched as the dominant browser on the Windows platform now, but this long time-frame gives its competitors time to build some steam. The fact that IE will no longer receive new version updates on any existing operating system seems like a risky move, as many people as well as companies do not upgrade right away. This could give competitors a chance to build market share. Time will, of course, tell. _________________ I.P. Daily,
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Simsimius -
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Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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I use Firefox, always will since download, downloaded it yesterday actually, but I know from very reliable sources that Firefox features are:
Easier to use multiple sites at once
A lot safer, no more adware, spyware installing, or virus automatically installing due to IE automatically running scripts, etc.
It's CSS is way better
Better features
(EDIT: Better layout too! Much more simpler!)
etc, etc.
I still wonder to myself why I used IE for so long!
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vhsorless -
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Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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Dudes, I scanned my pc for spyware/adware last night and the scanner didn't find ANY spyware or adware at all AGAIN. This the 6th time in a row that this has happened and I know that it's because of Firefox.
I use both Spybot and Ad-Aware, I keep them both up-to-date and I scan frequently. Even with all of that, I still used to discover spyware/adware on my pc in the past - because I was using IE.
Ever since I put Firefox on here, the results have been negative. Now, that's impressive to me.
I'm using Mozilla's mail client, Thunderbird, now also. It kicks Outlook Express's ass, pardon my French. I found a program that works with Thunderbird that lets you get your email from Hotmail, Yahoo or AOL's servers through your mail client. I tried it with my Hotmail account last night and it worked! It's called IzyMail or something like that. lol. _________________ I.P. Daily,
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olly86 -
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Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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vhsorless wrote: | Dudes, I scanned my pc for spyware/adware last night and the scanner didn't find ANY spyware or adware at all AGAIN. This the 6th time in a row that this has happened and I know that it's because of Firefox.
I use both Spybot and Ad-Aware, I keep them both up-to-date and I scan frequently. Even with all of that, I still used to discover spyware/adware on my pc in the past - because I was using IE.
Ever since I put Firefox on here, the results have been negative. Now, that's impressive to me. |
This can also be the case if you have setup IE correctly, and securely. Don't come at me with that bull**** that IE is insecure, it is by default!! But anyone with good knowledge should be able to make IE secure.
I use Opera as my main web browser, and never find any spyware on my computer. Complete with M2 it makes for a complete online experience, I don't need any other application to access the Internet/web. I don't think firefox can offer that (by default), can it?
Chat(IRC), email, and web browser all in one small FREE package. _________________ Olly |
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Simsimius -
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Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 5:10 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, you can get all that in firefox lol! I don't use the IRC, but it's there!
Btw, Firefox and thunderbird are also FREE (as you put it).
And Firefox is totally secure without even changing a single thing! Anyone can download, install and use it without having to edit a single setting!
Plus FireFox is customizable beyond belief!
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I just switched over to deepnet explorer, it's practically a IE shell. |
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It would be useful to see the page setup as a testpage somewhere - there's nothing obviously wrong with the basic code... Seeing the delete.php page that it submits to and what feedback that generates would help understand it in context better. |
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TRUSTAbyss -
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Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 10:27 pm Post subject: |
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I already fixed it , it seems that since IE doesn't fully comply with the w3c
standards , they had to modify the code a little bit in order to make it work. |
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yep, been using it for around 5 months, never used IE again. _________________
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roganty -
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Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 12:13 pm Post subject: fox hunting banned!! |
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Fox hunting is now illegal, so i don't think i'll be able to use firefox legally!-)
i keep trying firefox at college, but it keeps "timing out", but i have used firefox to test the layout of my website and it works great _________________ Anthony R
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