Marijuana

Noxious4 · - Joined: 30 Sep 2004 Posts: 2 Location: Sacramento, CA

Legalize for personal usage? Similar laws to alcohol. Make sure you Post your reason too.
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TRUSTAbyss · - Joined: 29 Oct 2003 Posts: 3752 Location: USA, GA

I don't think that stuff should be legal at all , it makes you retarded lol.
Also this is the most stupid Off topic discussion topic I have ever seen.

rado · - Joined: 14 Apr 2004 Posts: 67

What is the effect of this thing Marijuana?

jmc · - Joined: 12 Oct 2003 Posts: 34

...It's a habit-forming, psycho-tropic substance, extended use of which WILL lead to psychological problems... increased dependency... further abuse of "harder" drugs in search of the better "high"... social exclusion... oh, and somewhere in there, DEATH (like I really give a s**t).
Just ask anyone in the Psychiatric/Nursing profession. You know, the people who spend their lives trying to patch these pieces of crap back together.
It will basically f**k up your life, your families lives, and your (now ex-) friends lives. I say "ex-" because anyone who DID actually care for you will drop you like a hot potato once you stop listening to their heart-felt advice and try to foist all of your new "drug-buddies" (they ain't no friends) off on them...
Don't get me wrong... I think anyone who wants to put that s**t into themselves is welcome to it. I also think it should be sold (legally) in shops for anyone that wants it.
Perhaps the packets should carry a health warning (just like cigarettes, here in the UK). Maybe they could state in large, black letters "WARNING - THE USER IS A DUMB F**K. PLEASE AVOID".
The sad shame of it is that after they have wrecked their lives, the rest of us carry the cost for years to come (literally).
Well... you did ask.

rado · - Joined: 14 Apr 2004 Posts: 67

Yes but the short term effect - 5-15min? Not the long term result.
What is the psycho-tropic effect? Nobody can tell?

jmc · - Joined: 12 Oct 2003 Posts: 34

http://cms.psychologytoday.com/conditions/marijuana.html

goose · Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 11:02 am Post subject:

Hey where is my octopus pipe lol , the green leaf does no good to me. it is a sick perverted excuse to be a rebel.
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senshi · - Joined: 05 Nov 2003 Posts: 385 Location: UK

rado · - Joined: 14 Apr 2004 Posts: 67

I think that somehow CENSORED is all-ways involved in this things drugs. The problem of Marijuana is the problem of the CENSORED itselve.So the main question is:

Is Marijuana a CENSORED stimulant? For example what will happen if a young girl "smoke" a little bit of this thing?

Anonymoose · - Joined: 09 Sep 2003 Posts: 2192

Here's a special secret I will let you in on.

www.GOOGLE.com

It's called a search engine. You can use it to search for the answer to things. Every time you pop up in a thread on here you just go "Er, what is <whatever the thread is about>", adding nothing to the thread and wasting peoples time. Try *searching* (new word) for things before asking pointless questions like "What is <type of forum software>" "What is <type of programming language>" etc etc.

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goose · Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 12:19 pm Post subject:

girls start to go into a frenzy and start raping males ....what concept that is...so stay the hell away from it! if you dare ;0
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rado · - Joined: 14 Apr 2004 Posts: 67

Anonymoose - sorry for my direct question. But in general I am right - becouse the main reason for Marijuana to be illegal is the unproper behaviour of some young people. And when you add the undirect link between drugs and crime. And you see why people are so angry and negative about legalazing the thing(Marijuana).

senshi · - Joined: 05 Nov 2003 Posts: 385 Location: UK

elaurvick · Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 12:01 am Post subject:

It's less harmful than either alcohol or tobacco. It should be legal and controlled the same way as they are.

Our drug laws are a repetition of prohibition in the 1930's and we all know how much good that did. They are having the same results, making criminals rich because illegal stuff costs a lot more than legal. And after all, nobody HAS to use the stuff.

isbnthedailygrind · - Joined: 08 Oct 2004 Posts: 6 Location: Moncton

Imagine what life could have been like—we all could have avoided the need to provide sustenance for ourselves and others; we would not have had to fear physical death; and stress would not have been a part of our daily lives—but that is not our current situation. The reason for this is that “In the beginning…” (Genesis 1:1) God gave both Adam and Eve a free will. This free will which was given to our initial ancestors—and is ultimately dependent upon the faith of many, but not the faith of all—has lead to all the deaths, suicides, abortions, murders, lust, rape victims, and so on. Nevertheless, to say that God is to blame for all that has happened, would not be truth at all; for “God saw all that He had made, and it was very good.” (Genesis1:31) Good is good; He does not undermine Himself.
Therefore, the only criminal for humankind’s fall is ourselves; and it is because of our decisions that we have made, that we are now subjects to the separation from our Creator. In the past, we have said “yes” to everything; and as foolish men and women, we have shot ourselves in the foot too many times. We have taken Christ out of Christmas, when Christ is the center of such a loving celebration. Do we allow ourselves make another mistake again? If so, have we matured? Or are we only negatively progressing (i.e. self-destruction)?

My parents told me many things while I was growing up. One of the things they told me was in response to my statement: “I know I didn’t do well on my history test, but I wasn’t the only one who did bad on the test. I—“
“We don’t care how everyone else did. A poor mark is a poor mark; so, for the next month, no more video games for you young man!”
Sounds harsh, but it’s true. If you can (along the same lines) remember how harsh that sounded when you were a child, then respectively, how harsh would the legalization of marijuana really be? As my calculus prof always told his students: “Take a look at the bigger picture.” Marijuana may feel great to the first party; but on the other hand, many third parties will feel the negative effects of its use.

Why do people use marijuana anyway? Is it to escape reality and improve relaxation time? Is it an act of rebellion? I believe it is both and much more than just what is seen on a surface level. So then if we use it to relax our minds and muscles, it must feel good. Addicts say that it is not addictive, but on these grounds I believe it is. If it feels good, why not do it again? For if scoring a goal in hockey was actually felt bad (assuming you don’t score on your own team) then goals scored records would look pitiful. We continue to do things on the basis of whether or not it feels good.

I know certainly well that marijuana will be legalized; when or how, this leaves me and others clueless. I can easily see this just like an economist will predict the future of an industry after noticing a trend in the business cycle. It is impossible for me and others to stop these forces which are beyond us. Through supporting an objection to the legalization of marijuana, I am saving myself; and although I can express my thoughts publicly on this subject, I can't save the world from making a hazardous mistake.

We "nay-sayers" are only delaying an irrational conclusion. Will you fail as a catalyst, or will you take up the fight and succeed in maturity with us?

TRUSTAbyss · - Joined: 29 Oct 2003 Posts: 3752 Location: USA, GA

I agree with you , I never done drugs in my life and to think that people would actually legalize this some day is very stupid. Why do I think its stupid ? Im saying this because the birth defects in women , why would you want to make your new born kid retarded over something stupid that you did , if people would think and realize the truth of this drug we wouldn't have to put up with deformed new borns and retarded people that have to live their entire life in a wheel chair , just think if you ever had a kid and you where doing pot , wouldn't that make you feel bad for passing the effect to your kid's generation. Just look at some of the children that are retarded and see what type of suffering their going through , its the parents that do Narcotics and made them that way. This drug does the same \m/ \m/

Note: Noxious4 , If you do pot , just brake that barrior and move on to your
real life , just because someone says its cool to do pot , don't listen to them.

senshi · - Joined: 05 Nov 2003 Posts: 385 Location: UK

You have to remember that birth defects can arise from medical drugs also, some thing as simple as anti-biotics and turn your unborn int a vegtable, thats a supposidly safe drug to take but the risks are real.

You also have the issue of when the woman has the child, later in life runs the risk of having a retarded child, something like 1:900 women in their late 30's have a very real risk of producing a retarded child without the use of an illicut drug, by simply thinking or feeling that perscribed drugs are safer, infact they are not. So the unborn retard is out of the windo, if anything, alcohol has more chance of poisoning an unborn child and a higher risk of killing it form consupmtion whilst pregnant, dont get foold by this alcohol (beer) is safe nonsense, because it isnt.

Something as inoccuous as paracetamol which is considered safe, WRONG it is just as dangerous and addictive as some of the illicit drugs that can be gotten hold of, these illicit drugs are at the end of the day dervied from their medical counterparts.

This whole misinformation thing run by the governments through the media (includes papers) is what warps your sensce of reality to the situation, you need to step out of the loop and see it upclose for yourself to fully understand the bigger picture.

You also have to understand that Alcohol is a controled substance and carries far more long term health and mental health issues than someone ingesting a plant. You also have to remember that too many drunken parties will in the end make you ill because of the negative effects alcohol has on the body, way too many to list but compaired to cannabis they are hideous and I cant understand why people want to consume a poison.

FYI Alcohol, the human brain does not have any receptors it bonds to in the human brain, canabis does. I think that tells you something of the nature of this planet, Alcohol is like a cancer, you cant treat it, you cant cure it but like cancer it will kill you far easier to kill part of our ecco system than to give up something thats making billions world wide. Ihave never come across something that such a profund and detrimental effect on the human body, the misery and poverty that is causes by its use and not forgetting all the violent and abuse in the home it causes and the social disorder problems it causes with violent attacks on others from over consumption. The cost alone in dealing with these people on whole costs way more than it costs to bust someone for possession. It just seems totaly moronic to persue such a little thing that blown all out of proportion and people are brainwashed by the media coverage yet Alcohol still has not recieved the same level of limelight, its an anti-social drug, take football matches, why are people fighting and brawling???? ALCOHOL.

Its manipulation of the truth, control, you have eyes, ears and a brain, use them and I dont mean look at the TV either or the papers as they are bed fellows in the pocket of the government who drives this paranois band waggon. The issue being that just because YOU dont want or agree with doesnt mean that everyone else has to suffer, canabis has valid medical uses and with the american government in paranoia overdrive is seeking to destroy the plant, some methods including releasing a GM variet which given that its GM, how will it screw our planet up? Canabis cross breads with many 1,000's of other plants in the wild, some are very common including Mint for instance. What untold damge to this planet are the americans prepaired to do in its own and world environment with its personal & selfish crusade? If people knew half the facts, their would be outrage, but seeing as all the avenues of truth are closed off and were fed a constant stream of bull shit, I dont see anyone sofar in this thread that isnt suffering from some kind of brainwashing propogander, to the religious nuts amongst us, how do you feel that the Herb is mentioned and referenced as being used in the good book? or has that been edited out? Which I would suspect a real possibility.

The problem being is these people in power do not know any better and I do pitty them for their ignorance like people who instantly spout incorrect facts about substances when theirs far more dangerous medical substances around, well they say ignorance is bliss.

Angel · Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 1:10 pm Post subject:

Make it Legal I say:

I Have never heard of anyone beating anybody up or acting stupid while they were high. As a matter of fact I think the only thing I have ever seen a person do on that stuff is watch tv or listen to some tunes while shoveling food down thier throat and then falling asleep. I mean if you can have alcohol legal why not weed?

Also the country could benifit from it if it was federally regulated. Like Alcohol is in some states. As well as putting a big stomp on the people who illegally sell it.

olivierp · - Joined: 23 Apr 2004 Posts: 54 Location: Montreal, Qc

There are some pretty good comments and arguments, here's what I
can add...

As long as the government grows and sales it the right way, why not;
other then the way you consume it and how often you do,
if you go to far with this drug, you might end up associating it to all of your
activities... Which will probably lead to the need to consume the drug
before doing those hobbies or even before work for some consumers..
And dont forget that many smokers add tobacco which is not filtered when
consumed, that's not good at all..!

I often heard that potheads don't fight when they smoke, from my
personnal experience, I can tell you that I'd rather not do anything that
requires a good hands and eyes coordination, that stuff will help me
concentrate, in the other hand I will be slower at whatever I'm doing.

As a consumer, I don't believe it is a crazier thing to do then smoking
ciggarettes for 20, 30 years, getting wasted with shots, beer every week-
enk... Its all about moderation, control, smart usage and of course the way
it is grown.

I say let us smoke and stop relating the problems of our societies that we,
as a society have created, to the good old natural plant.

Of course there are organised criminal groups involved in the distribution of
the product, however, those groups dont live of weed selling, they make
most of their money with other drugs' and guns' distribution.

From what I know, they legalised alcool to stop the organised crime.. I'm
not saying that by legalising weed we will stop those organised criminals but
the government will control the distribution and production of the goods and
even control the dosage as well as profit from the sales of the product by
taxing it just like beer, wine, aspirines, etc.

I do not think that weed smoking will fix the world but it will certainly not
bring the world to an end...

Angel · Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 9:36 am Post subject:

goose · Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 1:44 pm Post subject:

time for a ho down the goose sings " Jim crack weed and he dont care me masters gone away" said in an oldman tone " this gooood shit!" the goose is as high as akite!
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amonia · - Joined: 10 Oct 2004 Posts: 45

Marijuana can damage your brain. There is quite good example(s) for that... You know something like ~ brainless or crazyman! You start to see thing and so on....

goose · Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2004 2:41 pm Post subject:

That's why i don't touch the shit.
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senshi · - Joined: 05 Nov 2003 Posts: 385 Location: UK

Anonymoose · - Joined: 09 Sep 2003 Posts: 2192

Nothing like digging up a 3 month old topic that nobody cares about to make yourself sound knowledgable is there?

Glitch2082 · - Joined: 02 Dec 2004 Posts: 194

If one wishes to display one's opinion, one has the right wouldn't you think?
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Anonymoose · - Joined: 09 Sep 2003 Posts: 2192

If one has already displayed it several times in the thread, the thread has died then one decides to display it again for no purpose other than to flame the last 3 month old post, one has the right but not the reason...

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TRUSTAbyss · - Joined: 29 Oct 2003 Posts: 3752 Location: USA, GA

I really do wish someone would delete this topic , its old. LateR!

Arctic · - Joined: 24 Sep 2004 Posts: 560

Four RCMP officers died because of drug use, for that Canada's flags go at half mast. Drugs, no matter what, impare your judgement. All of them are dangerous, no matter what you say. People feel like they can do anything when they're high, and the reality is, they'll try.

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Glitch2082 · - Joined: 02 Dec 2004 Posts: 194

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Kittenstomper2 · - Joined: 06 Jul 2004 Posts: 77

depends on the drug, since diffenrt drugs do differnt things like hallucionogins carciogins and etc and so on they all have a differnt effect weed is relativly weak compared to other drugs which i think have no place in this world, opium, acid, pcp, and the list goes on

weed is ok for some things like relieving high strees and pain and only if used in moderation, but like alcohol too much causes problems, ((problems not bieng as bad a rock hard liver, possibly killing someone with a DUI, or alcohol poisoning, but weed does cause problems if ya use to much))
alcohol for stress doesnt make things better

social drinking is ok, but alcohol like anything else, if ya do to much ya end up hugging the toilet pukeing your guts out

oct 04! who bumped the thread?, that can get ya in trouble on other forums, for bumping ((or repling)) to a topic that is a few months old

goose · Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 10:22 am Post subject:

might as well use a head as toilet brush!
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Glitch2082 · - Joined: 02 Dec 2004 Posts: 194

and might as well close this forum!

Don't mean to be a git here folks but im not one of arguement or preaching... which is where this forum seems to be leading...
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zilos · - Joined: 09 Nov 2004 Posts: 7

Ahhh, just my kind of topic! I just so happen to run a website called IAmCannabian.com which ofcourse if for legalizing, and is ran with Abyss Web Server. Thanks Aprelium!

Some statistics:
How many people are killed each year as a result of drug use?
# Source: NIDA Research Monographs Tobacco kills around 390,000.
# Alcohol kills around 80,000.
# Secondhand smoke from tobacco kills around 50,000.
# Cocaine kills around 2,200.
# Heroin kills around 2,000.
# Aspirin kills around 2,000.
# Marijuana kills 0. There has never been a recorded death directly due to marijuana overdose at any time in US history - call your local emergency room for confirmation.

Do illicit drugs cause a great deal of burden on our medical facilities?
In comparison to the resources consumed by tobacco and alcohol related medical issues, no. Some authorities have estimated that up to forty percent of all hospital care in the United States is for conditions related to alcohol. Overdose and contaminated drug ingestion do account for a large percentage of drug related emergencies, however, these issues are the result of prohibition. Regulation of the drug industry would all but eliminate this statistic.

Illicit drugs contribute to violent crime, right?
Most authorities agree that the violence associated with drug related crime is more a product of prohibition and not a product of the drug. As history has shown us, the prohibition of alcohol made way for the violent criminal organization. Prices rose for the prohibited alcohol, thus making the risk/reward factor weigh in on the side of violence. The year alcohol prohibition was repealed violent crime dropped 65% and the organized criminals were forced into other businesses.