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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 3:03 pm    Post subject: Java released as open source Reply with quote

Java was just released as open source. Will this mean that Abyss may support Java in the not too far away future?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 5:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Java released as open source Reply with quote

cmxflash wrote:
Java was just released as open source. Will this mean that Abyss may support Java in the not too far away future?


Abyss can run Java even now: you could write CGI or FastCGI applications in Java and have them run under Abyss Web Server with no problems.

The problem we have is with JSP and Java servlets. They need a connector on Abyss Web Server to be reachable. This connector is what we're working on.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 10:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Java released as open source Reply with quote

aprelium wrote:
cmxflash wrote:
Java was just released as open source. Will this mean that Abyss may support Java in the not too far away future?


Abyss can run Java even now: you could write CGI or FastCGI applications in Java and have them run under Abyss Web Server with no problems.

The problem we have is with JSP and Java servlets. They need a connector on Abyss Web Server to be reachable. This connector is what we're working on.


nice.
but should you make an ASP support also.
that would be perfect a webserver that does support all Script langange.
yes there is active html.
but one included.
I have tried the ASP.net support and that works very good.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello PsyDonia,

Aprelium cannot create native ASP 3.0 support because of Microsoft's licensing.
The people at seliSoft wrote their own version of ASP. Although ASP isn't a free
scripting language, Microsoft was kind enough to release ASP.NET.

Basicly, ASP.NET is the Free language of ASP, and standard ASP is the one
licensed only by Microsoft. Does this answer your question?

P.S. ASP.NET is becoming more popular than the standard ASP anyway. Popular
websites, such as Playstation.com use it now.

Here's Proof from the playstation.com headers

Quote:
Response Headers - http://www.us.playstation.com/

Transfer-Encoding: chunked
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 09:46:04 GMT
Server: Microsoft-IIS/6.0
X-Powered-By: ASP.NET
X-AspNet-Version: 2.0.50727
Cache-Control: private
Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~: ~~~~~
Connection: Keep-Alive

200 OK


Sincerely, Josh (TRUSTAbyss)
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 12:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Java released as open source Reply with quote

PsyDonia wrote:
but should you make an ASP support also.
that would be perfect a webserver that does support all Script langange.
yes there is active html.
but one included.
I have tried the ASP.net support and that works very good.


There is a little chance to have Aprelium release a classic ASP interpreter. The main reason is that ASP 3 is considered as a dead technology by Microsoft and no further developments will happen for it. Most ASP users are switching and converting their scripts to ASP.NET.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 6:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Java released as open source Reply with quote

TRUSTAbyss wrote:
Hello PsyDonia,

Aprelium cannot create native ASP 3.0 support because of Microsoft's licensing.
The people at seliSoft wrote their own version of ASP. Although ASP isn't a free
scripting language, Microsoft was kind enough to release ASP.NET.

Basicly, ASP.NET is the Free language of ASP, and standard ASP is the one
licensed only by Microsoft. Does this answer your question?

P.S. ASP.NET is becoming more popular than the standard ASP anyway. Popular
websites, such as Playstation.com use it now.

Here's Proof from the playstation.com headers

Quote:
Response Headers - http://www.us.playstation.com/

Transfer-Encoding: chunked
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 09:46:04 GMT
Server: Microsoft-IIS/6.0
X-Powered-By: ASP.NET
X-AspNet-Version: 2.0.50727
Cache-Control: private
Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~: ~~~~~
Connection: Keep-Alive

200 OK


Sincerely, Josh (TRUSTAbyss)


ok that I didn't know thanks for the explain.

aprelium wrote:
PsyDonia wrote:
but should you make an ASP support also.
that would be perfect a webserver that does support all Script langange.
yes there is active html.
but one included.
I have tried the ASP.net support and that works very good.


There is a little chance to have Aprelium release a classic ASP interpreter. The main reason is that ASP 3 is considered as a dead technology by Microsoft and no further developments will happen for it. Most ASP users are switching and converting their scripts to ASP.NET.


Yes I know but still and some year from now many still develope
in Classic ASP and maybe converting to ASP.NET.
But I know that microsoft doesn't develope ASP anymore.
But if it is coming any ASP interpreter it would be nice.
but I understand if it doesn't, because you have allot other to code before that.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 1:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Java released as open source Reply with quote

PsyDonia wrote:
Yes I know but still and some year from now many still develope
in Classic ASP and maybe converting to ASP.NET.
But I know that microsoft doesn't develope ASP anymore.
But if it is coming any ASP interpreter it would be nice.
but I understand if it doesn't, because you have allot other to code before that.


The problem with ASP is that it is too much Windows dependant. Many ASP "objects" are actually not language "objects" as in other languages (Python, etc...), but rather DLLs hosted by Windows. So if Windows no more supports this "objects-based" technology, an ASP interpreter would be useless (or will have to recreate the whole environment and platform from scratch).
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