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PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2004 12:48 am    Post subject: Help, please? Reply with quote

Hello to those of you who are kind enough to actually take the time to read this. Before we get started, I would just like to say one thing: I am immensely new to all of this. I consider myself an amateur, especially when compared to you knowledge people, as I only know a good amount of HTML, and have little experience in creating web sites. So, please, I ask you to take things slowly with me, and if it wouldn't hurt, could you explain to me exactly what I'm doing when you tell me to do it? I have a great interest in this kind of stuff, and I want to be able to figure things out later, without the help of knowledgeable others. Another note before I ask, which will also help you get an idea of my experience in this: I read the thread down a few (Located here.), which has a similar problem, and I wasn't able to figure it out, still.

Well, my problem is exactly what is in the other thread. How can make my page viewable to others? Once again, just speak to me as if I was a four year old that can't even pronounce "internet," and everything should go very well.

Thank you for your time.
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PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2004 12:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can give this ip address to people: http://www.aprelium.com/ip/
and see if they can access it or use a proxy service like this - http://proxify.com to see if you can access it.

If they can't read this: http://www.aprelium.com/abyssws/faq.html#A1-2

This tutorial might also help:

http://www.aprelium.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3806
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PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2004 1:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you can't get it to work on your own, these questions can help matters:

What operating system are you running?
Who is your ISP?
Do you use a router? If so, what kind?
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PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2004 1:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

also do you run a firewall, inclodeing the Windows XP one?
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PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2004 1:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alright, first, I attempted to nquin suggested, and none of that worked, and the FAQ didn't help me.

Secondly -

OS - Windows 2000 (NT)
ISP - Cableone
Router - Netgear and SMC

And finally, I am almost positive that I lack a firewall.

A note... I run through a network at my house, in which all of my family's computers are in one room, and all hooked up through a wired LAN, with the exception of our laptop. We are hooked up through two Routers, one of which (The Netgear one) also has wireless capabilities.
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PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2004 1:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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1) Get the Internal IP address of the computer running Abyss Web Server.
If you run Windows 95, 98, ME: Start>Run>Type "winipcfg" and select your network adapter from the dropdown list. Your IP address either looks like "192.168.x.x" or "10.0.x.x"
If you run Windows 2000, XP, Server 2000, or Server 2003: Go to the command prompt and type "ipconfig" (which will display your Internal IP under the IP Address category).

EDIT: To get your Internal IP, just download my handy little batch file: 95/98/ME or 2000/XP/2003. Download using IE.

2) Go to your router configuration. Usually, you can type "192.168.1.1" or "192.168.0.1" in your browser to bring it up.
Helpful tip: After completing step 1, use the same digit(s) in the third block of your IP in step 2. Example: If your IP address from step 1 was "192.168.254.10," then use 254 to find your router (192.168.254.254). If your IP address was "192.168.1.10," then use "192.168.1.1" (taking the third block of numbers in your IP address, and putting them in the third and fourth place in step 2).

3) If a password prompt comes up, try different combinations of the words "admin" and "administrator." Most linksys routers use "admin" for the password and no username.

4) Once in the configuration, look for an option that says "forwarding." Once you have found it, under port number, type "80." Under IP address, type the IP address you found in step 1 (192.168.x.x). For TCP/UDP, make sure at least TCP is selected.

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PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2004 1:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alright, I know we're making good progress, but it still won't work.

But, it's not. I went into my router configuration, and turned on Port Forwarding to the Service "HTTP" and set my port to 80. I left everything else alone, as I don't want to mess anything up too bad. I then went in to make sure that my Abyss port was set to 80 as well, and it was.

I was looking through the previous tutorial (Which, as I go along, makes more and more sense) and I saw that you came upon the same issue. So, I attempted to alter the beginning and ending ports to 90, but the error said "Default service type/port is not changeable."

Also, I'd like to know if I'm actually going to the correct URL... If my IP address was 24.119.115.23, then would I have to go http://24.119.115.23/ or maybe http://24.119.115.23:80/ ?
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PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2004 4:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://24.119.115.23 would be the correct address to go to. When you turn on the HTTP service, you're sure that you're pointing it to your correct internal IP, right?

Also, what Zipcode are you in (I need it to visit Cableone's website).
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PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2004 4:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For those of you who have been helping, I've decided to wait a day or two, since I'm moving my computer, which may rid me of my additional router.
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PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2004 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you all so very much!

After I switched rooms and discarded one of my routers, I took the advice you all gave me, and now it works!

If I have any more problems, I'll make sure to come back and bug you some more. ^^
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PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2004 12:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glad it works.
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PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2004 12:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have another question for you who are knowledgeable in these areas.

How could I get my FTP to work? Now, mind you, I am of very limited knowledge in this subject. Basically, all I know about it is that I can edit my files from different computers.
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PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2004 12:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It depends on what FTP server you are using. They all serve the same purpose, but they all have slightly different configurations.

Which one are you using?
If you haven't chosen yet, may I recommend:
www.bpftpserver.com
www.serv-u.com
www.transsoft.com
www.guildftpd.com
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PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2004 1:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or:
http://filezilla.sourceforge.net/

Which is a completely free server and client.
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PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2004 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Holy cow, I'm trying to do way too much at once for my brain to handle.

Currently, I'm attempting to install this FTP server, and at the same time, I'm also attempting to install some forums on my server, which requires me to install both PHP and MySQL, both of which I know next to nothing about.

I guess I'll get the FTP done first, then get workin' on the boards. But, as of now, I'm really busy with other stuff, so I'll have to get back on this either later tonight, or tomorrow.
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PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2004 4:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok. When you're ready to talk about the FTP, remember to tell us which one it is, and what version.
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PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2004 6:44 pm    Post subject: Confuzzled Reply with quote

Okay guys....

I do the ipconfig thing (I'm running XP) and it says my ip address. Is that my internal or external ip address?

Also the router....in the ipconfig window it says, "Router Enabled.......no". What do I do now???

Please help. Thanks!
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PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2004 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is the IP Address it gives you?

If it is 192.168.xxx.xxx, then it is an internal IP. If it is something different, such as 63.203.35.55, then it is an external IP-and you have no router.
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PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2004 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is an external ip then...and i have no router.


Ummm...so how do I host my website so other people may see it?

Excuse my ignorance!
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PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2004 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, well normally, you would just type http://yourip into your browser, and it would work.

If it doesn't, then your ISP is probably blocking port 80. In the Abyss console, change the "Server Port" from 80 to 81. Then, go to http://yourip:81 and you should see the website.
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PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2004 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it works!


i am in your debt good sir
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PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2004 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sandwich wrote:
i am in your debt good sir

Oh don't worry... hehe.

Glad it works.
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