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p3
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 Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 12:05 am Post subject: VPC Software |
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Does anyone know of any good Virtual PC Software (Allows me to run multiple OS's at once on Virtual Hard Disks so I don't have to partition my hard drive)
I tried a demo of VMWare Workstation, but it doesn't seem to allow anything but text mode on Linux, the reason I'm trying this out. Tried a demo of Microsoft's Virtual PC 2004, and can't get that to work.
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p3
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| Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 12:07 am Post subject: |
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| Oh, and preferably it would allow me to boot off an .ISO file on my harddrive. |
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| Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 12:20 am Post subject: |
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You've basically ruled out the 2 major commercial players right there heh. VMWare will happily run normal Linux... What exact distro are you trying?
If you're willing to take the time to work with it, Bochs is a *free* VMWare style solution which will run Linux in Windows, Windows in Windows, etc etc. I've used it to run 98 in XP quite happily, but never got round to trying it with Linux - it is documented that it works well though.
http://bochs.sourceforge.net/
There's also QEmu, which will take a lot more fiddling to get working, and COLinux - again, both free, but not quite as user friendly as VMWare.
Finally, if you just want to get a general feel for Linux console commands, scripting, etc I'd highly recommend you check out the embedded version of Damn Small Linux. This is prepackaged to run in a window on your Windows desktop using QEmu. As with any VM based solution, it won't run at full speed, but since it's a lightweight distro it's more than enough to get started practising with.
http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/
http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/damnsmall/current/dsl-embedded.zip
Just unpack the zip and off you go...
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p3
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| Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 12:28 am Post subject: |
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I meant the GUI (X Console?)
Turbolinux and Slackware.
And thank you Anonymoose, I'll take a look at everything. |
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p3
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| Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 12:47 am Post subject: |
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| Does anyone know how to get Microsoft's Virtual PC 2004 to boot an ISO image off the hard drive? |
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| Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 9:53 am Post subject: |
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I'd ignore VPC if you're wanting to play with Linux.
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Unlike Connectix Virtual PC 6.x and earlier, Virtual PC 2004 no longer supports Linux as an operating system type (Figure), but instead presents a list of Microsoft-only OSes. You can still choose "Other" to install Linux--and it does work with most distributions I've tried (though not with Fedora Core 2 or 3)--but doing so comes with some limitations. The biggest of these limitations is that Linux (and any other OSes that fall under the "Other" category) do not support Microsoft's crucial Virtual Machine Additions, which we'll describe a bit later. In short, Linux support is almost non-existent in Virtual PC 2004, which makes this product suddenly a lot less compelling to me.
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Second, the performance is perceptibly slower than with previous versions. I've already highlighted that above, but it bears repeating: VMWare and older Connectix versions of Virtual PC are faster.
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http://www.winsupersite.com/reviews/virtualpc2004.asp
Since you couldn't manage to type "virtual pc boot iso" into Google, here's the first result, a link that shows how to set it up to use an ISO.
http://paulsweblog.com/software/virtualpc/
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| Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 11:29 am Post subject: colinux |
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http://www.colinux.org/
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aprelium
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| Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 2:15 pm Post subject: Re: VPC Software |
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| p3 wrote: | | I tried a demo of VMWare Workstation, but it doesn't seem to allow anything but text mode on Linux, the reason I'm trying this out. |
VMWare can run Linux in graphical mode without any problem. All you have to do is to install their Linux X Window drivers to get the maximum screen mode available. Otherwise, you can run the standard VGA mode (640x480) without any special driver.
In our opinion, VMWare is the most versatible VPC software available on the market. We have used it to run several Linux flavors, several versions of Windows and some other experimental operating systems without any problem.
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p3
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During the installation of Turbolinux or Mandrake, it cannot use the GUI Installer. So it falls back to text. Then I get this error:
When I try to install the Tools drivers from the VM < Install VMWare tools selection, it comes back with an error that says there is no bootable media in the drive. I've searched their knowledge base to no avail...
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VPC works perfectly fine with Linux and Windows alike, you just need to know how to do it. Get virtual CD to allow booting from ISO files.
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cmxflash
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| Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Use Partition Magic and fix your freaking harddrive, and stop running Linux under Windows. |
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| Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 9:33 am Post subject: |
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| p3 wrote: | | During the installation of Turbolinux or Mandrake, it cannot use the GUI Installer. So it falls back to text. Then I get this error: |
To avoid having this monitor probing error, try setting or choosing your monitor type manually (in VMWare choose a standard monitor, it doesn't matter really). VMWare is not connected physically to your monitor so probing the supported frequencies will fail.
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When I try to install the Tools drivers from the VM < Install VMWare tools selection, it comes back with an error that says there is no bootable media in the drive. I've searched their knowledge base to no avail...
Any ideas? |
Have a look on the help file that ships with VMWare. It explains how to install VMWare tools on Linux.
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p3
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| Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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OK, thanks!!!
Anyways, I got Virtual PC working, so I'll stick w/ that...
Now for internet on Mepis... |
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