Hi! Newbie Here! I was up all nite last nite trying to set

rosie · - Joined: 24 Mar 2004 Posts: 14 Location: Portland Oregon

:oops: up my second website on Abyss. I just downloaded it yesterday. I have read all the installation help and lots of post in this forum ,but am too tired to keep searching so If I am duplicating a problem already posted I apologize in advance. I have my main website running on Abyss fine. I just registered a new domain name for a second site a couple days ago and want to have it set up by the time my dns server gets around to getting it on the net.I am not sure where to put the second site. At first I put it in the same folder( htdocs) as my main index.html and called it index.htm ,but of course that didn't work. My main webite homepage became the new website page. So that would be my first question??? Where the hey do I put it and what to name it?? Do I name it /.../index.html?

Second question...In the section where you add on a vitual file/account...
I think the virtual path should be /.../index.html and have tried a hundred different real paths and it always says "bad path!" 8O

I use Microsoft ME.

Would appreciate some help big time!!!!!!!!!! 8) I do not know a lot about code except getting pretty good with the html, but paths are confusing to me when I have to make em up myself...so If anyone helps me please keep it simple.Thanks in advance cause I know someone is going to have just the right answers for me lol! Positive thinking!!!!

Oh and to introduce my self. I live in Portland Oregon , am a native, married, with dog and cats children. My second website that I will be adding will be a Portland Oregon forum. Portland has a few big forums but they are unmonitored and totally trashed by trolls.Will be happy to get mine up and rolling! Thanks again,R.

iNaNimAtE · Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 5:21 am Post subject:

Ok, what you want are "Virtual Hosts;" not "Virtual Paths."

The current version of Abyss does not support Virtual Hosting (sometimes referred to as "VHosts"), however there have been some workarounds.

The most popular one is "Multiple Site Creator." (Available at http://www.multiple-sites.tk)

The instructions are very clear on the website on how to use it. Also, if you have not already, you need to install PHP or Perl; depending on which "Multiple Site Creator" you choose. It doesn't matter which one.

For instructions on how to install PHP or Perl, go here for PHP, and here for Perl.
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rosie · - Joined: 24 Mar 2004 Posts: 14 Location: Portland Oregon

Thank you very much inanim! No wonder I couldn't do it! I do like this webserver better than the one I had before tho. Althought I liked the one I had before just fine.I must had misundrstood the description in the download area. So ,(I'm sorry if I sound like a dummy) I can make the virtual hosting work with abyss without being an expert techy???I mean I can still keep Abyss and addon the ability without being well like I said?????? I hope so.I tried to use Apache to do the virual hosting ,but it was just toooooooooooo complicated for me anyway. I really like the little community you guys are! :wink:

rosie · - Joined: 24 Mar 2004 Posts: 14 Location: Portland Oregon

Hey I looked at it and it's just too much for me. I need to find a webserver that handles what I was looking for when I got this one. Thank you very much tho!!

jmc · - Joined: 12 Oct 2003 Posts: 34

Hey guys (and gals!),
This is probably a pretty dumb question (and shoot me down in flames if it is!), but why doesn't Rosie simply create each site inside it's own folder in htdocs, then point her domain re-directs to the index files inside each folder? I'd love to know if there is a solid reason for not doing the "multiple-site" thing that way...
Cheers,
John Mc

rosie · - Joined: 24 Mar 2004 Posts: 14 Location: Portland Oregon

LOL! That sounds pretty good!!! I have been looking and looking and ended up! back here! I am just about ready to take another look at that code,but not yet! :)

iNaNimAtE · Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2004 2:49 am Post subject:

And there will be a new version coming out soon which will enable you to create multiple sites a lot easier.
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rosie · - Joined: 24 Mar 2004 Posts: 14 Location: Portland Oregon

I want it NOOWWWWWW!!!!GIGGLING! :lol:

msmollison · - Joined: 24 Feb 2004 Posts: 15

Yes rosie, I would say you should do what was said eariler for sure... create a new folder (mynewsite) in /htdocs and get a web redirect (possibly with a no-ip.com account) to point to /htdocs/mynewsite/index.html

For example, I have the website msm33.hopto.org ... msm33.hopto.org/johnholden is actually John's site, hosted on my server, and accessed with http://johnholden.no-ip.org which just goes to msm33.hopto.org/johnholden

rosie · - Joined: 24 Mar 2004 Posts: 14 Location: Portland Oregon

Hi msmoll, I don't want to have anything at the end of my domaine name ecept .com tho. I do use NO-Ip as my dns client already tho. I downloaded a server tonite that handles virtual hosting it's 29.95 after 30 days. I haven't figured out how to work it yet. It's called Fastream Net File Server. If I can figure it out it would be worth the 30.00 although I hate , reaaalllllllly hate to shovel out the dough! It might take me 30 days to figure it out. It's got a 48 page adobe manual...

TRUSTAbyss · - Joined: 29 Oct 2003 Posts: 3752 Location: USA, GA

Rosie , virtual hosting will be released as
a preview version later this month if im not
mistaking , keep checking back , don't waste
your money on some competitor out their.

jmc · - Joined: 12 Oct 2003 Posts: 34

rosie · - Joined: 24 Mar 2004 Posts: 14 Location: Portland Oregon

OOO thanks John! Yeah I already dumped the faststream netfile server. Overblown and confusing! Ok , will I find this info at my dns server Zoneedit or My dns clent no ip??? Or my name register company??

rosie · - Joined: 24 Mar 2004 Posts: 14 Location: Portland Oregon

OOO thanks John! Yeah I already dumped the faststream netfile server. Overblown and confusing! Ok , will I find this info at my dns server Zoneedit or My dns clent no ip??? Or my name register company??

rosie · - Joined: 24 Mar 2004 Posts: 14 Location: Portland Oregon

Okay part of it is done I think! :roll: Nothing is as easy as it sounds! :lol: I tried a webredirect at my dns server ,but my second website is already coming to the ssme ip. It did not have a section too redirect it too a file on my computer. So I went to my dns client and did a port redirect and put the second site on a different port. Now, I wonder do I need to name the folder for site 2 , the name of the tiltle of the webpage?????I'm tired :roll: Or is that what I needed to do or???????I'm going a little mad here... :oops:

rosie · - Joined: 24 Mar 2004 Posts: 14 Location: Portland Oregon

It isn't working. I name a new folder site2, put index.html file in there, with the website on the page and I still get my main website when I type in the new domaine name... :x

iNaNimAtE · Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2004 1:48 am Post subject:

I suggest you wait until the new version comes out; it should be a lot easier for you to configure.
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jmc · - Joined: 12 Oct 2003 Posts: 34

OK, Rosie...
Try this... you probably have Abyss set up with the usual IP-based alias (i.e. you type in http://12.123.12.123 or whatever and Abyss shows the index file for your first site - found at http://12.123.12.123/htdocs/index.html, yeah?). It sounds like you have set up the re-direct to point only to the IP address, NOT to IP+NEW FOLDER NAME. So, your new "re-direct" should be set up to point your second domain name to http://12.123.12.123/folder2. Abyss fills in the "blanks" (/program files/abyss/htdocs etc) for you!
This is the exactly the way I have set up a couple of sites running on my box:
http://www.hartlepoolcameraclub.co.uk is pointing at http://80.6.216.175/phpbb2 and http://www.borderwings.co.uk is pointing at http://80.6.216.175/phpbb2bw
(Freebie sites for local Clubs).
Hope this helps! We're getting there gradually!
John Mc

iNaNimAtE · Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2004 3:02 am Post subject:

I noticed your website is not Abyss powered. There is nothing wrong with that, because you aren't advertising it, but Abyss is so much easier to use?
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rosie · - Joined: 24 Mar 2004 Posts: 14 Location: Portland Oregon

LOL! :wink: I dooooo want to get there! Okay back to the drawing board! I want to thank you alll for helping me with this. I have spent so much time and effort into it I kind of hate to give up now. I think I will probably stay with Abyss and wait for the new program, but really do want to get my site up before that so thanks again. I will let you know what happens! :)

iNaNimAtE · Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2004 3:10 am Post subject:

Do you have any other computers you can try it on?
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rosie · - Joined: 24 Mar 2004 Posts: 14 Location: Portland Oregon

Do you mean it won't be differnt on my computer? No I only have one. Anyway it hasn't worked so far. When I type the url for my new website it goes to my old website. I didn't do anything in the config ini file or anything? Maybe I need to?There must be something I didn't do right and I probably overdid it. I webredirected my new domaine to newdomainsite2 and Iwhen that didn't work I created an alias with my dns which comes up site2mydomaine.com..I probably can delete that alias no?If that wasn't neccessary, I should because my dns server says it can cause email problems... 8O Boy do I sound a mess! LOL! I am at least taking a break from it tonite and watching my favorite home improvement shows! :) Here is my old website(my main one)url --http://antiquitiesandwannabees.com and here is the new one http://phyllisjonesportlandoregonchat.com in case seeing them might help to figure out what the hey I need to do. And I don't know why my original websight comes up with the ip number in the address bar instead of my domaine name. Maybe that could be part of it. It was doing that before I started trying to add this second site.I talked to my dns server and they said they fixed any problem with my domaine ,but why it is still doing the numeric in the address bar I don't know .I notice the new domaine reads right in the address bar so who knows!

TRUSTAbyss · - Joined: 29 Oct 2003 Posts: 3752 Location: USA, GA

Haven't you ever heard of a redirect , what we mean by having
a second site , we mean using http://www.your-new-site.com/ to
redirect to the following website http://your-site.com/new-site/

Do you get it now , if you want almost the same as a virtual host
than use my form generator script thing that I coded , its very useful
and even I use it to host my tutorials website http://os17fan.cjb.net.

::Virtual Host Creator::
http://multiple-sites.tk (No programming required)

You get the actual effect of a real virtual host
visit these for example , all hosted on abyss.

http://www.offspringvideos.com

http://os17fan.cjb.net

http://vhosting.cjb.net

http://bbs.offspringvideos.com

http://search.offspringvideos.com

rosie · - Joined: 24 Mar 2004 Posts: 14 Location: Portland Oregon

No I guess I don't know. I don't even know anyone who has a website but myself and I pretty much learned how to that on my own. I run my own webserver and host my own site and no I am not sure what the diffrence in what you just said and what I did is.I don't even know where to put that code that you told me to look at...

iNaNimAtE · Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2004 6:37 am Post subject:

Yes, I told her about BlueDog's script, but she wasn't able to get it to work (she used the form creator).

You said you use ZoneEdit, right?
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TRUSTAbyss · - Joined: 29 Oct 2003 Posts: 3752 Location: USA, GA

I can set it up for you rosie , my MSN Messenger is
trustpunk@hotmail.com , would you like me to do that ?

iNaNimAtE · Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2004 6:43 am Post subject:

Good luck. Her situation sounds pretty messed up.
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rosie · - Joined: 24 Mar 2004 Posts: 14 Location: Portland Oregon

Geeze! Inanim! :roll: And Yes I copied the link to put on my website for abyss and it is powered by abyss,but it is still on my desktop. I have had 10 different servers in the last 2 days and quite frankly haven't worked on my main website and wasn't thinking about puting in links when I have been trying so many out. (I just noticed your post a few posts back). I have pretty much decided to stick with abyss and I will put the link in my website.

And trustpunk it would be great if you could do that! You could tell me something you collect and I'll give you a great discount or credit if you want to help me with this! !! :lol: Is that your email? I will try it. I don't have any instant messengers tho.

jmc · - Joined: 12 Oct 2003 Posts: 34

iNaNimAtE · Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2004 8:24 pm Post subject:

To Roise: I didn't mean that personally. Sorry if you were offended. I am just a cynic; mainly because computers never work when they are suppposed to; so I don't expect them to work anymore. I hope you get your problem fixed.
About the instant messenger: If you run Windows XP, you have Windows Messenger pre-installed. Add TRUSTPunk's email address to your "buddy list" (or something similar). You need a Hotmail email account before you are able to use Windows Messenger.

To jmc: I made a little mistake when I said that. When I got the headers on "http://www.hartlepoolcameraclub.co.uk," I got "Apache/1.3.29 (Unix)" and I instantly thought you were running Apache. However, I realized that you use a web redirect to "80.6.216.175" which was running "Abyss/1.2.2.2 (Win32)." Sorry about my mistake.

Note: Nothing personal, but I have a tendency to run a header request on the sites on these forums; just to see if they run Abyss like they say they do (although you never said anything about it). Feel free to run as many port scans and header requests on my website as you please. However, it is currently down due to some firewall problems...
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iNaNimAtE · Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2004 6:18 am Post subject:

Yeah, I know... I figured out my mistake...
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