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phrozen1
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 Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2003 12:52 am Post subject: Just one problem... |
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I'll make this quick...
I have Abyss server running on a PC on my home network.
Port forwarding is enabled to this computer from the router.
No firewalls are blocking communications with the Abyss server.
The pages load over the local network, but come up with a
(111) Connection Refused error whenever the server is accessed over the internet.
I need a solution to this problem: Is it possible that my internet company is perhaps blocking a port somehow to prevent me from serving?
Please reply soon. |
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aprelium
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| Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2003 6:42 pm Post subject: Re: Just one problem... |
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Try configuring Abyss to use another port (for example 8000) and redo your access test. If it works, that means that your company is blocking port 80.
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CapFusion
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| Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2003 8:37 pm Post subject: Re: Just one problem... |
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| phrozen1 wrote: | I'll make this quick...
I have Abyss server running on a PC on my home network.
Port forwarding is enabled to this computer from the router.
No firewalls are blocking communications with the Abyss server.
The pages load over the local network, but come up with a
(111) Connection Refused error whenever the server is accessed over the internet.
I need a solution to this problem: Is it possible that my internet company is perhaps blocking a port somehow to prevent me from serving?
Please reply soon. |
Is your ISP is blocking port, then we really do not know. Your ISP can answer that question. But you can try the suggestion from Aprelium regarding different port and see if the problem remain.
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phrozen1
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| Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2003 9:28 am Post subject: |
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I rang my ISP, they claim not to block any ports.
The problem is that my server either does not respond, or something is blocking communications to it.
http://phreakin-perth.no-ip.com:8000/
The above link is a redirect to my PC, please try it and suggest any solutions that may come to mind.
Note: Holding 'ctrl' when clicking refesh on internet explorer makes sure the page does not load from cache. |
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phrozen1
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| Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2003 9:44 am Post subject: |
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The Abyss server appears still not to work when using a different port.
Any possible fixes for a server that appears not to be active?
Perhaps I need to manually open some ports? If this is so, please leave instructions for me. |
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bk
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| Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2003 10:11 am Post subject: Try tacing down your computer vith Visual Route! |
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Visual Route tels you the ip's of servers that the data has traveld thru!And it tels you if the signal has ben blockd and where has ben bloced!
And its 100% free(a Download) :D |
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CapFusion
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| Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2003 7:58 pm Post subject: Re: Try tacing down your computer vith Visual Route! |
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| bk wrote: | Visual Route tels you the ip's of servers that the data has traveld thru!And it tels you if the signal has ben blockd and where has ben bloced!
And its 100% free(a Download) :D |
Where do you get it or DL from? This can a good tool.
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CapFusion
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| Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2003 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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| phrozen1 wrote: | I rang my ISP, they claim not to block any ports.
The problem is that my server either does not respond, or something is blocking communications to it.
http://phreakin-perth.no-ip.com:8000/
The above link is a redirect to my PC, please try it and suggest any solutions that may come to mind.
Note: Holding 'ctrl' when clicking refesh on internet explorer makes sure the page does not load from cache. |
Try another unpopular PORT.
According to your old message, Abyss seem to work on your LAN side. So to me, it either the router or your ISP is the cause.
Please recheck.
Both Abyss and Router set to the same PORT
Check your true IP (Dynamic) to see if can connect without "No-IP". Use > http://www.aprelium.com/ip/ < and see if this way work for you. If does, it can be "No-IP" is not setup correctly (?). If still can not, then back to either Router or ISP.
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phrozen1
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| Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2003 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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Ok... Heres the situation.
My ISP is not blocking any ports - no problem there.
Failing to find the above mentioned program, I narrowed down the possible causes.
The router is my problem - there are several functions that I have a problem with.
Even a direct link to my IP address comes up with 'Connection Refused', so I think my router blocks all incoming server requests...
I'm using a D-Link ADSL Modem Router (Model DSL-504).
Functions that I would appreciate someone explaining the implications of to me are:
NAT
DMZ
Port forwarding is all in order.
My IP is http://203.12.160.35:8000/
Web server is running on port 8000, router redirects ports 7999 - 8001 to this PC.
The problem is getting the router to communicate with the WAN - not sure what the problem is there...
Any suggestions or settings information would be good. |
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CapFusion
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| Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2003 6:14 pm Post subject: |
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NAT serves three main purposes:
- Provides a type of firewall by hiding internal IP addresses
- Enables a company to use more internal IP addresses. Since they're used internally only, there's no possibility of conflict with IP addresses used by other companies and organizations.
- Allows a company to combine multiple ISDN connections into a single Internet connection.
DMZ -
Short for demilitarized zone, a computer or small subnetwork that sits between a trusted internal network, such as a corporate private LAN, and an untrusted external network, such as the public Internet.
According to their support:
You will need to Port Redirection (p18)
Enter Internet Port, Local Port, Protocal and Local Computer
For DSL-504:
http://support.dlink.com/Products/view.asp?productid=DSL-504
ftp://ftp.dlink.com/Broadband/DSL504/Manual/dsl504_manual_2.pdf
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phrozen1
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| Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2003 4:11 am Post subject: |
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What effect would the DMZ and NAT have on running a web server?
As far as I can tell, the port redirection/forwarding is all in order. It just seems that the router blocks requests from the WAN. Requests to the server from within the network all work.
I need more specific help on this - I am new to tinkering with routers and web servers.
I also seem to get a message saying that port 80 is in use when I try to set that in Abyss. Its currently on port 8000, and as far as I know that is an uncommon port.
Any more ideas? Help is greatly appreciated.
Perhaps someone could leave a list of instructions for me to set up the D-Link ADSL router with - if you dont have the same router, please leave more generalised instructions. |
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phrozen1
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| Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2003 4:19 am Post subject: |
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| CapFusion wrote: |
According to their support:
You will need to Port Redirection (p18)
Enter Internet Port, Local Port, Protocal and Local Computer
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I see nowhere to enter a "Local Port". Ive entered the internet ports and the local IP to forward to.
Ok, my router settings are as follows (so you have a better idea about the setup):
Router IP: 192.168.0.1
DHCP Client: Off
NAT: Enabled
IPSec: On
PPTP: On
DMZ: Disabled
Port Redirection Settings:
State: Enabled
Protocol: TCP
Internet Ports: 7999-8001 Redirected
Local IP to forward to: 192.168.0.4
I'm also wondering about DHCP Client mode and its effect on web servers? Any requirements in that area? |
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| Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2003 9:16 am Post subject: |
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cannot have a internal ip address.
it must be either the ip address you have registered or the one your isp assigns you when first connect to the net.
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phrozen1
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| Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2003 2:48 pm Post subject: |
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I don't understand.
My WAN IP address is 203.12.160.35
My Router's internal IP is 192.168.0.1
My server's internal IP is 192.168.0.4
Any conflicts or access information I don't know about?
The router forwards port 8000 to the server IP, 192.168.0.4
So the server WAN address should be http://203.12.160.35:8000/
Is that all correct?
Because it still seems not to work. |
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CapFusion
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| Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2003 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | I need more specific help on this - I am new to tinkering with routers and web servers. |
Specific information, that I do not have since I do not own one. I only thing I can go by is the PDF manual I saw from D-LINK site with information regarding this issue >
ftp://ftp.dlink.com/Broadband/DSL504/Manual/dsl504_manual_2.pdf <.
If you saying your setting is correct but is not functioning correctly, you can contact D-LINK support (909.790.5290) to verify this issue.
| Quote: | | I also seem to get a message saying that port 80 is in use when I try to set that in Abyss. Its currently on port 8000, and as far as I know that is an uncommon port. |
PORT 8000 is not uncommon port, it one of very popular alternative webserver port that is next to 8080.
You indicate there another server is using PORT 80. Can you find out what it is? I would assumed it is another webserver running.
| Quote: | | I see nowhere to enter a "Local Port". Ive entered the internet ports and the local IP to forward to. |
According to the manual on page 18 of PDF, it does have one.
Two main information need to enter to the router.
LAN IP - Abyss BOX
LAN PORT - Abyss PORT
Router need to know which LAN IP and PORT to direct incoming from Outside to LAN (Internal) and to which port. If any this part fail, Abyss will not received the incoming request.
Next alternative option is to set your Abyss to DMZ and see if it will get the inbound request. Check again with your Public IP and see if you can get webpage serve. If you can, then you may need to find out how to setup your router or have a good long talk with D-Link support.
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