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 Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 8:50 pm Post subject: "Powered by Abyss Web Server" site |
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itz up & running at:
new link: http://brionews.com
BTW it shows a nice integration with a PHP script (a RSS feed parser, thanks to maricopa.edu/feed) and a cgi date/clock/visitCounter (thanks to Muquit).
How to build a not-so-bad site with few tools. Plz lemme know your humble opinions, what you think, what you would like to see, etc.
Abyss courtesy link is halfway on the left side, and banner is bottom-left.
thank you Aprelium.
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| Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 12:42 pm Post subject: Re: Powered by Abyss Web Server site |
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briosky,
Congratulations for the site. It contains very interesting stuff. :-) Please notify us if you add some new sections to it.
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| Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2005 6:36 am Post subject: some updates |
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got rid of the popup menu based on java script, and substituted with rollover menu in CSS.
a couple of minor updates in the graphic.
i really would like to hear your comments.
Not only if liked it or not, but also ideas and improvements; if you found it useful (if you are a developer), etc.
http://brionews.com
WARNING: to visit it do NOT use M$ IExploder: it does not follow the HTML and CSS standards. So vision is messed up.
To do (in this order):
to add an other about 25 fun links
buy a TLD
buy an other PC and step back to linux (when i'll have both cash for the PC and time to setup the linux box)
setup POP3 and SMTP server
a RSS blog ?
a newsletter ?
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| Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2005 12:45 pm Post subject: Re: some updates |
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briosky,
In FireFox, the menu box is over "Custom Solutions for Small Business & Professionals".
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In FireFox, the menu box is over "Custom Solutions for Small Business & Professionals"
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Ya, I am aware of the problem: it is an occasional behavior, it doesn't happen all the times. However just reloading the page, sometimes fixes it.
I am working on it, if I only knew where the bug is.
thank you.
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briosky,
Reloading the page can solve the problem sometimes only. Most of the time, the box has two lines instead of one. May be you'll have to set its width to a fixed value.
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TO: everybody
a) i bought a TLD so now URL is: http://brionews.com
b) menu bar problem fixed forever: its been sufficient to move the style into a external file
TO: Aprelium
i think once on your site i saw a page like "all the sites powered by abyss", or something like that - plz change your link
from: phatGraphiX - http://a.b.c.d
to: Brionews - http://brionews.com
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| briosky wrote: | TO: everybody
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b) menu bar problem fixed forever: its been sufficient to move the style into a external file |
page just opened, before refresh
after a refresh
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| Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 2:50 am Post subject: |
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till coupla days ago it happened to me 1 time out of 5.
the style was embedded in the html file, like
| Code: | <style type="text/css">
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since i moved the style, like
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in about 40 loads it never happened again
in local it always shows
thats exactly what i dont need: troubles
however im grateful to roganty for the report
then i'll do more investigations
try to give a look to the css source - any clue?
thanx everybody
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TO: Aprelium
i think once on your site i saw a page like "all the sites powered by abyss", or something like that - plz change your link
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You're probably referring to http://pba.trustabyss.com .
The menu is working great now. We've tested it on the same FireFox that we've used yesterday and it seems that your fix has solved the displaying issue.
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| Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 2:28 pm Post subject: |
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you will have to get in contact with TRUSTpunk, who is the lists administrator
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I will change it right now. Thanks for warning me about that.
Edit: Changes are now applied. Thank You!
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thanks punk fella
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| Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 8:54 am Post subject: |
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- Added a new menu voice: Freeware
- Added some new useful links
- minor graphic enhancements
http://brionews.com
enjoy
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| Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 8:28 am Post subject: more enhancements |
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added:
- other 2 inside pages
- a bottom nav bar
http://brionews.com
enjoy
stay tuned for more coming pages
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| Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 8:12 am Post subject: Further Enhancement |
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- added other 3 inside pages
- got rid of java scripts, now pure php: speed improvement between 40-60%.
Fresh news on 7 topics with 90 sources and 270 fresh news every day (more coming... Scheduled other 3 inside pages, with about 25 sources and 75 feeds).
Updated every 120 min.s
All for free !! Bookmark me !
Why to buy a newspaper ?
Enjoy http://brionews.com
Abyss rocks !
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Added 4 computer articles I wrote,
plus another couple pages
enjoy
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briosky,
Great content!
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thank you, admin ! :)
just trying to do of my best.
you know, to give a service (and learning PHP)
now added about a dozen pages with C/C++ examples
ASAP will add Java examples
enjoy
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| Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 6:50 am Post subject: Latter updates |
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1) added couple inside pages
2) fixed couple old pages
3) i m late with more code examples
4) some minor graphic changes
5) changed the FTP server
As usual I would like to hear comments, tips and improvements. For instance if I had time I would add a livejournal.
Please send me screenshots of my homepage with your browser (possibly with browser version, OS, OS version, date).
Thank you every one for the support received in these months
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| Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 3:43 pm Post subject: Re: Latter updates |
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When I say :
| briosky wrote: | 1) As usual I would like to hear comments, tips and improvements. For instance if I had time I would add a livejournal.
2) Please send me screenshots of my homepage with your browser (possibly with browser version, OS, OS version, date)
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...I mean it :P
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| Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 5:12 pm Post subject: Re: Latter updates |
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| briosky wrote: | When I say :
| briosky wrote: | 1) As usual I would like to hear comments, tips and improvements. For instance if I had time I would add a livejournal.
2) Please send me screenshots of my homepage with your browser (possibly with browser version, OS, OS version, date)
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...I mean it :P |
Can do the second, requires minimal effort. (Alas, why I didn't thumbnail.)
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No one loves apple.
Just make it compatible with Firefox, IE, and Opera. |
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| Arctic wrote: | | No one loves apple. |
???!!!!
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| Arctic wrote: | No one loves apple.
Just make it compatible with Firefox, IE, and Opera. |
Once you try mac you never go back.
Disclaimer: And for this reason, I stay the hell away from anything with an apple on it.
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| Arctic wrote: | | That girl looks like a MURDERER :O |
She'll murder your windows.
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| MonkeyNation wrote: | | Can do the second, requires minimal effort (Alas, why ...) |
MonkeyNation: thank you for your post. Pic taken and stored. I luv it !
Arctic: thank you too, for your comments, just *PLZ* remember this ain't the place for a PC war. :))
However I heard Mac is dropping G processors, to join the Intel family. So the argument became pointless.
| Arctic wrote: | | Just make it compatible with Firefox, IE, and Opera |
Arctic: the homepage's been already tested with some browsers, plz look here .
The problem rises with the rollover menu, inasmuch IExploder doesn't support the Hover property.
The homepage's been written with the Industry Standards. IExploder simply doesn't follow the Industry Standards.
M$' fault.
Thank you every one.
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| briosky wrote: | | MonkeyNation wrote: | | Can do the second, requires minimal effort (Alas, why ...) |
MonkeyNation: thank you for your post. Pic taken and stored. I luv it !
Arctic: thank you too, for your comments, just *PLZ* remember this ain't the place for a PC war. :))
However I heard Mac is dropping G processors, to join the Intel family. So the argument became pointless.
| Arctic wrote: | | Just make it compatible with Firefox, IE, and Opera |
Arctic: the homepage's been already tested with some browsers, plz look here .
The problem rises with the rollover menu, inasmuch IExploder doesn't support the Hover property.
The homepage's been written with the Industry Standards. IExploder simply doesn't follow the Industry Standards.
M$' fault.
Thank you every one.
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Please god tell me my eyes are decieving me, and that I didn't see you write that I used an Apple.
That is a windows pc, sir.
I take it you didn't read my disclaimer.
I may defend apple, but I'd never use them.
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| Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 3:18 pm Post subject: Re: Latter updates |
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| MonkeyNation wrote: | | That is a windows pc, sir. |
oops, ahahah sorry buddy
BTW i luv that theme
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| Looks like window blinds! |
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| Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 1:53 pm Post subject: M$ IExploder doesn't follow Industry Standards |
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| 423 wrote: | | Looks like window blinds! |
Hi 423,
that happened coz you used M$ IExploder, didn't you?
In the upper-right corner there is a Warning for the M$ IExploder users, that explains why and how M$ IExploder sucks.
Spend 2 min.s reading it: it doesn't hurt !!
Have a super day,
-- brio
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Hmm, I just read that. If its up to "industry standards" then why do I get over 80 validation errors? Industry standards means it works will all browsers and the HTML is written correctly.
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fbrionews.com%2F
My website may have more than that but I make sure it actually works in ALL browsers.
Did you know that you will be losing website hits because of this?
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| Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 4:58 pm Post subject: Re: M$ IExploder doesn't follow Industry Standards |
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| briosky wrote: | | 423 wrote: | | Looks like window blinds! |
Hi 423,
that happened coz you used M$ IExploder, didn't you?
In the upper-right corner there is a Warning for the M$ IExploder users, that explains why and how M$ IExploder sucks.
Spend 2 min.s reading it: it doesn't hurt !!
Have a super day,
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Don't know for sure, but I think he meant Window Blinds the software. It's what I used to skin my desktop.
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Well if you look at it in IE then you would see that it doesnt, I think he was just referring to the colours that makes it look like blinds...
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| Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 5:09 pm Post subject: Industry Standards & RSS Errors |
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| The Inquisitor wrote: | | why do I get over 80 validation errors? |
All the news seen on the site come from RSS enabled news' sites. I warned about that
Basically it happens that the queried sites return strings like some&thing instead of some&thing.
One day if I'll have spare time, maybe I'll write a PHP filter to change all the "&" in "&".
| The Inquisitor wrote: | | Industry standards means it works will all browsers and the HTML is written correctly. |
Indeed it does: I've got positive reports with Konqueror, Netscape, Safari and Firefox, of course.
Some of the screenshots can be seen here. ASAP I'll post more screenshots with more browser.
All the normal browsers (except Lynx, of course) on this planet support the hover property,
because it is Industry Standards.
Except M$IExploder 'cause they dont give a damn and try to impose their own $hit.
However I wrote about this matter here
| The Inquisitor wrote: | | Did you know that you will be losing website hits because of this? |
They are just 57.7% as you can see here, and dropping.
This is one of those rare cases in which the majority is wrong.
Dear Andy,
although I deem you as an expert and valued technician,
and often I read your posts here and there, let me say this.
The only way (in my knowledge) to make the menu available
also to M$IExploder, is to use Javascript.
Now it turns out not only I am versus Javascript but also
frankly I dont give a flying fudge about M$IExploder users:
they get what they deserve.
And I am happy with my 42.3% of sane users.
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I agree with you entirely but I was just pointing out that the majority use IE so until FF or some other browser becomes standard it might be worth trying to make it work with IE?
I use FF so its no worry to me but I just thought I'd point it out.
I have also tried using JavaScript for a menu and it didnt work out as I planned. It worked fine in IE, then I changed it to work in IE and FF, then IE wouldnt work, fixed that problem so it worked in IE and FF, then tried to make it work in opera, never succeeded but it stopped the FF version from working... So I gave up. I just thought it might have been nice to have extending/retractable menus.
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I really don't bother reading all this, but an image says more than 1000 words, right?
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I couldnt say more...
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| cmxflash wrote: | | I really don't bother reading all this, but an image says more than 1000 words, right? |
Dear cmxflash,
please read more carefully my last post, you didn't get the point.
However I'll be glad to repeat:
the news are pumped on the page requested by the user through PHP scripts,
that query several websites for their RSS pages in XML.
| briosky wrote: | Basically it happens that the queried sites return strings like
"some&thing" instead of "some&thing". |
If you notice, all the errors begin after source line #330,
exactly where begins the code from the returning RSS feeds
| Code: | | <div class="NewsBox"> |
Some months ago, before sticking the validator banners, I did an experiment:
taking off all the query code, I got a perfectly validated page!
I cannot be held responsible for third parties strings
| briosky wrote: | | One day if I'll have spare time, maybe I'll write a PHP filter to change all the "&" in "&" |
Thank you for your comment
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| Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 3:37 am Post subject: Compatibility my ass: what they never say to you |
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| The Inquisitor wrote: | | I have also tried using JavaScript for a menu and it didnt work out as I planned. It worked fine in IE, then I changed it to work in IE and FF, then IE wouldnt work, fixed that problem so it worked in IE and FF, then tried to make it work in opera, never succeeded but it stopped the FF version from working... So I gave up. I just thought it might have been nice to have extending/retractable menus. |
The problem comes from the fact that different browsers,
although compatibles with the W3C specs, are NOT compatible
among themselves, i.e. one to each other.
So they render same instructions in different ways.
2) Not all the browsers support the same features.
http://hotwired.lycos.com/webmonkey/reference/browser_chart/
http://hotwired.lycos.com/webmonkey/reference/browser_chart/index_nix.html
For more info:
http://www.google.com/search?q=Cross-browser+compatibility+issues
3) Anotyher dirty example is this: write a mixed mode graphic-text Java applet
and try to run it on different OS'es and browsers: you may have a surprise.
4) Wanna more? Take a C code source and compile it with 3-4 different compilers.
Not only you'll get different ASM code (this is normal)
but the programs behave differently!
Conclusion: never trust IT people when they talk "compatibility"
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Briosky,
Using the W3C validation buttons implies that your WHOLE page is W3C compliant. Why even bother using the icon/logo that is supposed to mean the whole page is compliant when it is not. Even if the majority of the page is compliant, the part where you have embedded RSS feeds is not, therefore don't use the button, which to most, clearly implies that the whole page is valid.
Rather than using a "My site is W3C compliant button" you could consider using a "link to validation" link/button instead. it would make much more sense. |
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briosky
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| Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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| dellmann wrote: | | Using the W3C validation buttons implies that ... |
Dear dellman, I already explained that. I wish people read all the thread before posting similar questions/comments.
Let's do another example. What a user browser sees is:
| Code: | <div class="rss_box">
<div class="rss_title"><a href="http://www.securityfocus.com" target="_blank">SecurityFocus Vulnerabilities</a></div>
<ul class="rss_item">
<li><a href="http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/15448" title=" Multiple Vendor lpCommandLine Application Path Vulnerability ..." target="_blank">Vuln: Multiple Vendor lpCommandLine Application Path Vulnerability </a>
<li><a href="http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/15435" title=" GDK-Pixbuf/GTK XPM Images Buffer Overflow Vulnerability ..." target="_blank">Vuln: GDK-Pixbuf/GTK XPM Images Buffer Overflow Vulnerability</a>
<li><a href="http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/15447" title=" Ekinboard Profile.PHP Cross-Site Scripting Vulnerability ..." target="_blank">Vuln: Ekinboard Profile.PHP Cross-Site Scripting Vulnerability</a>
</ul></div>
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But what I wrote is something like:
| Code: | <?php $src = 'RSS_XML_page_on_some_site.com'; include 'myScript.inc'; ?>
<?php $src = 'RSS_XML_page_on_some_site.com'; include 'myScript.inc'; ?>
<?php $src = 'RSS_XML_page_on_some_site.com'; include 'myScript.inc'; ?>
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So in my source (HTML 4.01 compliant) there are some scripts.
These scripts query RSS XML pages on some websites.
The string of the returning link is framed in a <ul> and
the <ul> is stuffed in the CSS code, by the script, in the user page.
| briosky wrote: | If you notice, all the errors begin after source line #330,
exactly where begins the code from the returning RSS feeds
| Code: | | <div class="NewsBox"> |
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All the errors are only in the links returned by some_sites.com
All this to mean I dont have any control on the syntax of the returning links.
The juice of the matter is (once again) the part of code I wrote is HTML 4.01 compliant.
Thank you.
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MonkeyNation
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| Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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I think the point is that it doesn't appear (To the browser, if you will.) valid.
It might be worth putting in a few str_replaces (Your samples above suggest PHP.) to correct this.
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dellmann
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| Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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Briosky,
I have read all the above posts, and I undertsand exactly what you are getting at. However, my point is that the page as a whole is not a valid html 4.01 transitional document! I do realise that this is not your fault, but then why display the W3C button which by its nature, and its intended use claims compliance of the WHOLE document to standards ? (and yes I have read the text underneath it). |
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briosky
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| Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 9:09 pm Post subject: str_replace |
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| MonkeyNation wrote: | | It might be worth putting in a few str_replaces (Your samples above suggest PHP.) to correct this. |
Nation,
it appears the problem is solved.
Being more in the C++, I didn't even think there was such a function in PHP.
I just added
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$str = str_replace( "&", "&", $str);
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$title_str = str_replace( "\"", "", $title_str); |
Of course, over than " and &, that's not warranty in the future
more weird characters couldn't popup.
What can I say ?
Thanks a bunch !!
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| Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 11:14 pm Post subject: |
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Hurrah! Now perhaps everyone can stop nit picking and get on with life.
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