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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 5:55 pm    Post subject: Paeon Anoma Hosting Reply with quote

http://67.165.236.142:81/PAH/index.html

It should be redirected, but shortcut URL is being stupid, so oh well.

The site isn't finished, theres no content on any of the links, so don't bother trying. Just rate how well i did on the template, and any enhancements if needed.

Also, for those who care, i changed the error page to match the site, and it isn't mean anymore.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a issue, when you click the links and inside the frame, you have to scroll to the side to see the error display...
looks good.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I told you, there is no content so don't complain about anything with the links. This isn't a bug, its just centered for when you see it by itself.

Try it out.

http://67.165.236.142:81/tjnetekermerk
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldnt use VZE for shortcut url service :roll:

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 12:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It looks very nice. I'm just not sure about having a Comcast address for contact.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 1:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Foxified wrote:
I wouldnt use VZE for shortcut url service :roll:

no-ip.com



Fox, look at your post count and then look at mine.

You don't talk to me like that, i talk to you like that.

Theres a simple hierarchy here in this forum, just like i respect those with higher post counts then me.

Secondly, no-ip is an annoying thing to remember and to type at the end of a URL, a lot more people can rememebr vze.com then no-ip.com. Believe it, theres proof.

Oh, and iNaNimAtE, i would much prefer a comcast address then yahoo, hotmail, or any of the others. It comes with what i pay for, so i'm going to use it. What other choice is there? I'm not going to pay for a domain until i start getting money, so i will have to use my comcast addresses ^^.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 1:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I definitely agree with you on that; Comcast does make a better impression than Yahoo or Hotmail (or those other free providers). I was intending a domain, but I understand why you don't want to pay for it until you get a customer.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 2:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Fox, look at your post count and then look at mine.

You don't talk to me like that, i talk to you like that.

Theres a simple hierarchy here in this forum, just like i respect those with higher post counts then me.


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Oh, and iNaNimAtE, i would much prefer a comcast address then yahoo, hotmail, or any of the others. It comes with what i pay for, so i'm going to use it. What other choice is there? I'm not going to pay for a domain until i start getting money, so i will have to use my comcast addresses ^^.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :roll: :roll: :roll: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Here read this: http://www.apa.org/pubinfo/anger.html
Controlling Anger -- Before It Controls You

p.s. iNaNimAtE has a higher post count than you :lol:
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 2:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

P.S, Your blind, i was respecting him.

Control your stupidity before...oh..nevermind.

Stop going off topic.

Anyway, i have finally finished my second project to get low resolutions and higher to finally see the site the way its meant to be seen.

Take a look, tell me what you think, its through the power of flash.

Oh, and inani, i can't get a domain until i have the money to buy it. I get money from customers, ne? ^^;
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 2:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where is this new template? Is it on the link on the top of the page, because it looks the same to me.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 4:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

just like i respect those with higher post counts then me.


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Post count is meaningless, it doesnt show as if you had gotten smarter from posting more, and also look at the date you joined, it means shit about post count.
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Secondly, no-ip is an annoying thing to remember and to type at the end of a URL, a lot more people can rememebr vze.com then no-ip.com. Believe it, theres proof.
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No ip offers other names , not just,no-ip.com, ex hopto.org, and so on.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 6:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Foxified wrote:
Post count is meaningless

I do agree (a bit ironic).
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 8:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Foxified wrote:
just like i respect those with higher post counts then me.


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Post count is meaningless, it doesnt show as if you had gotten smarter from posting more, and also look at the date you joined, it means shit about post count.
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Secondly, no-ip is an annoying thing to remember and to type at the end of a URL, a lot more people can rememebr vze.com then no-ip.com. Believe it, theres proof.
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No ip offers other names , not just,no-ip.com, ex hopto.org, and so on.
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Wrong, wrong, and wrong.

You couldn't be MORE wrong.

The more posts, the more time dedicated to helping others, and knowledge, you are. you, obviously haven't dedicated ENOUGH time around the scene. People rememeber certain things a lot easier, i use to use no-ip on every link. I always got error hits, more then 1000+ a day, so you do the math.

Secondly, any name besides the MAIN subdomain the offer is usually stupid looking on any link.

I will, however, agree with you on one thing. Post count is meaningless; But only on sites that don't offer something that this one does. A community of intelligence.


ANYWAY, lets get BACK on topic, PLEASE.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 10:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, well, vze is down for now and .tk doesn't allow ports, so i'm using no-ip for now.

Its my third choice, so its not completely horrid.

http://www.paeon-hosting.no-ip.com
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Karasu Kami wrote:

The more posts, the more time dedicated to helping others, and knowledge, you are. you, obviously haven't dedicated ENOUGH time around the scene.


That would be true if the majority of your posts had been spent helping others, unfortunately most of them are flames or insults, up to to the point of having your account suspsended from the forum by Aprelium. Obviously if a person only discovers Abyss this month they can only begin helping when they find the forum.

Karasu Kami wrote:
you do the math.


Ok.

Karasu Kami - member for 212 days, 596 posts, the majority flames. Average number of posts per day - 2.8
Number of suspensions - 1

Foxified - member for 8 days, 95 posts, the majority helpful or constructive comments.
Average number of posts per day 11.9
Number of suspensions - 0

I know which contribution to the board I respect more.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nevermind, i give up, i just can't get rid of these many major inperfections i have that everyone can so blantly uncover and point out.

I just wanted to show everyone some stupid site i did, then everyone has to start in with what i did wrong, or can do better. If fox just kept what he thought to himself, then all would be fine.

The only reason i don't post a lot is because no one cares; Not only that i can't help anyone, even if i could there are already others to do it before me. So, sorry for my complete uselessness, i'll just leave again.

Think about your actions before posting. I said don't post about the links, theres no content, and someone did it. fox had to but in and roll his eyes at me because i have a personal opinion. Inani, well, hes fine, atleast he didn't express what he thought about me with some smilie screwing its eyes out.

I hate being mean, but i can't stand things like this, i've explained it before.

P.S. If you can't post in this thread about the actual site, then please don't post at all, any of you. Don't even reply to this. If you can't say something about the site, then just don't post. Period. i'm leaving, again, thanks. e.e;;
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 11:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And the No-IP site is down.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 1:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aww..i kind of noticed that when i tried to go to my link. Well, that sucks. ._.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 1:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Karasu Kami wrote:
Nevermind, i give up, i just can't get rid of these many major inperfections i have that everyone can so blantly uncover and point out.

I just wanted to show everyone some stupid site i did, then everyone has to start in with what i did wrong, or can do better. If fox just kept what he thought to himself, then all would be fine.

The only reason i don't post a lot is because no one cares; Not only that i can't help anyone, even if i could there are already others to do it before me. So, sorry for my complete uselessness, i'll just leave again.

Think about your actions before posting. I said don't post about the links, theres no content, and someone did it. fox had to but in and roll his eyes at me because i have a personal opinion. Inani, well, hes fine, atleast he didn't express what he thought about me with some smilie screwing its eyes out.

I hate being mean, but i can't stand things like this, i've explained it before.

P.S. If you can't post in this thread about the actual site, then please don't post at all, any of you. Don't even reply to this. If you can't say something about the site, then just don't post. Period. i'm leaving, again, thanks. e.e;;


Correction, her, and herself*
Maybe I like to point out things, perharps because im a gurl -.-
Im sorry, but I just...DOnt get me annoyed -.- it leads into bad area....
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 2:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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This is seriously going to turn into a flame war. Let's just stop while we're ahead
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 2:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry for not knowing, but i don't read minds so you can't exactly get upset at me, i mean, seriously.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 9:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow you guys are like little kids on and on and on. But anyways, Karasu Kami.. your site is pretty good. I like how it looks a lot is pretty tight. Umm obviously your not done with it yet but its lookin good so far.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya, enough flaming...

But anyway, it looks pretty good. A lot like some of your other stuff, but like you've said its your style. I look the left tool bar too, looks good.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, i got that idea at the last moment. I still need to finish off just two more pages and its complete. But what comes with lack of sleep is lack of work, i can't focus and pay attention, plus i'm starving.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2004 12:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The layout looks very nice. The pages all work nicely together, and the layout is consistant throughout the website.

I could comment on the content; but this is mainly about the layout; so I'll stick with that.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2004 12:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, you have permission to do so inani.

The site is finished, By the way.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2004 1:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Karasu Kami wrote:
The site is finished, By the way.

I noticed.

Anyway, let me just say, these are my opinions. It's your website; and you can go ahead and do whatever you want with it. I am saying this in hopes that you won't get defensive; because that honestly won't solve anything.

The main problem I noticecd was that it doesn't come across as professional.
I'll start by category:

Home: ":.*~ The Toolbar! ~*.:" - I don't know what all the eye candy around the word is about; but it wouldn't exactly increase sales. It made me question who exactly is running the site. Also, that odd image at the footer of each post is kind of useless. The entire news section is just unprofessional. An intro such as "hello" and words like "Heh" don't exactly come across well. Also, the grammar could use some work.

Info: "Paeon Anoma Hosting was founded on Monday 19th 2004 by the PaH staff leader, James..." The entire paragraph is useless, and comes across as a guy in his basement; not a professional business. "The computer runs on a custom..." and the "...3000d/1244u Cable connection..." is also useless. People do not know, nor care what that means. All that grabs their attention are buzz words such as "100% Reliable Dedicated Servers" and "99.9% Uptime Guarantee." No one cares about the specs of the server; because usually, they don't know what it means.

Services: This is quite possibly the worst page here. The first page starts out with 6 words; all in the same font face. Who would know that four of them are actually links? Once clicking on one of them, you get a very confusing table with the information all smashed together. Database? Grouping? What? I'm glad that I know what I know now; otherwise I wouldn't be able to understand a word of that. I am about to contradict everything you have every been taught: When it comes to making money, DO NOT "think out of the box." Instead of making new ideas; copy everyone else's, and then enhance it. It's called competition. If you make a 75" TV, people will say "Wow! I want that!" Why? Because they already know what a TV is, how big they come, and how expensive they are; therefore they have plenty of prior knowledge to help base their deceision; let alone understand the product. If you make a completely new product, (in this I am referring to "grouping"), the majority of people do not want to take the time to figure out what it is. They need to be spoon-fed the information, or else they will right-out leave. If you want to introduce "Grouping," you need to announce it on the page with all your other products as something new and amazing. Right now you have it like it is a generic feature.
Also, a note: People don't like to see asterisks.

Sign Up: I don't know what is with the "mailto:" idea, but use a form mail instead. The majority of users have web-based email; which is not compatible with "mailto:" links.

Staff: "Katsuki" - No, just no. That's all I can say.

Donate: I find it wierd to donate to a page that changes for services.

Status: "...the server can randomly change status from good to bad." People do not want to hear about downtime. Even if there is, don't mention it on the front page. Only tell about down time once you have a customer.

Contact Us: "If you wish to contact me in any way..." - No, it's "if you wish to contact us in any way..." People don't want to be purchasing services from one person; at least they don't want to THINK they're purchasing services from one person.

That's all I have to say. I wrote this from the point of view of a potential customer. If you take the time to look, you may notice that I didn't do a half-assed job on my critique; I am attempting to improve your website.

I am sure there are many things that you disagree with, but as I said, it's your website; and you can do anything you want with it.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2004 3:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You forgot to keep one thing in mind.

I haven't slept. I haven't slept. I haven't slept. I haven't slept.

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Home: Un-n00bed

Info: Buzz word galore.

Services: I'm keeping grouping, i don't think its that bad. But otherwise, i've changed the whole system.

Sign Up: I have no other way of doing it, i hate those PHP scripts because i always screw them up. Want to help me with this one? I would appriciate it.

Staff: I didn't know what else to put, so i just put an e-mail with the forum username, go look at it.

Donate: Why do you find it weird? Maybe someone doesn't want the hosting but would like to help out?

Status: Changed, now it mentions 99.9% uptime (which is true, mind you.) and the notifications thing, which was modified.

Contact Us: Its now "us", so its proper.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2004 4:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I must say, it looks a lot better (in my opinion).

The "Info" page is a lot catchier than it used to be. The "Services" page is very informing; a lot better than it was. There was nothing wrong with "grouping," I just don't think it was appropriately explaned. You put the definition in the FAQs, where it should probably be at the bottom of the "Services" page (I know it would be more logical to put it in the FAQs, but the majority of customers do not want to hunt around).

I would be willing to help configure a script for you for form mail. It is a Perl script; which works quite nicely.

About the Donate; there is nothing really wrong with it... I just found it kind of ironic.

Overall, you improved it a lot. Good Job.
Now get some sleep!
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2004 4:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, thank you a lot inani ^^;.

We can talk about that script tomorrow, just go into my profile on here and get my contacts.

Thanks for your help.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2004 4:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No problem; will do.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2004 4:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Note that i'm always on away and invisible (i'm on invisible on AIM and yahoo), so don't second think iming me.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2004 4:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll send you an email. Check it around 3 or 4 PM PST.
EDIT: And I can try PM'ing you on this board.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 4:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The site looks great, I agree. Very nice design.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 7:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sup guys!

Hey Karasu Kami, you don't need to have 1000's of post to be smart!

There are many smart people around who DON'T USE FORMS! And yet they will know more stuff!

You see. It's called training and qualifications and knowledge! You don't need to hang around a forum to get knowledge.

Either way, your site is nice. Every worked when I went on it. And if you are going ask about my qualifications, I'm a qualified Micrsoft Certified System Administrator. So I know a thing or two about somethings.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 8:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

d0r wrote:
Sup guys!

Hey Karasu Kami, you don't need to have 1000's of post to be smart!

There are many smart people around who DON'T USE FORMS! And yet they will know more stuff!

You see. It's called training and qualifications and knowledge! You don't need to hang around a forum to get knowledge.

Either way, your site is nice. Every worked when I went on it. And if you are going ask about my qualifications, I'm a qualified Micrsoft Certified System Administrator. So I know a thing or two about somethings.


What are you ranting about?

I'm kind of lost, so can you show me the root to what your talking about? Thanks ^^;
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 5:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's very simple!

I'm telling you that you don't need to have 1000's of post on a forum to be smart! That is the way you have shown that you think!

In reality, you don't need to have 1000's of post on a forum to be smart!

You just compaired yourself with someone who has less post than you on this forum, and say that they don't know what they are talking about.

Which could be true between you two, but then you went on about some crap about helping others and knowing stuff, but really, to know that stuff you have to learn it, and you can't learn it without posting on forums!

Christ, all your post could be just asking questions!
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 5:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Uhm..ok, go rant somewhere else, keep it off of this thread ^^;.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 9:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damn man, you must hate being proven wrong! :D

Oh well.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, i hate annoyances and flaming where it doesn't belong. Take it to OFF TOPIC. This is, afterall, MY thread.
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