how do u start to make the website

 
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RedGoku
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2003 9:23 pm    Post subject: how do u start to make the website Reply with quote

how do u make the links and stuff like on the menu and how do u make a disign like the background of the site?????????????? :? :?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?
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olly86
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2003 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you can use Ms Frontpage or another web editor
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Aeonandromere
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2003 1:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

perhaps you should learn HTML before trying to run a webserver? Buy book on HTML and CSS
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smok3
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2003 2:49 pm    Post subject: Re: how do u start to make the website Reply with quote

RedGoku wrote:
how do u make the links and stuff like on the menu and how do u make a disign like the background of the site?????????????? :? :?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?


good html resource:
http://www.w3schools.com/html/html_intro.asp
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oz1kad
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2003 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey...

HTML knowledge is not needed to run a web-server, but is sometimes a big help.

A lot of programs can save in HTML format - e.g. MS Word, Star- / OpenOffice and a lot others...

Maybee get a homepage design program with WYSIWYG (What You See Is What You Get) to do the job for you...
:!:

Don't give up - it's fun to make homepages :wink:
Per
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smok3
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2003 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oz1kad wrote:
lot of programs can save in HTML format - e.g. MS Word, Star- / OpenOffice and a lot others...

Maybee get a homepage design program with WYSIWYG (What You See Is What You Get) to do the job for you...
:!:

Don't give up - it's fun to make homepages :wink:
Per
imho that's exactly what one shouldnt do, it is actually much easier to learn some basic html and then built on from there, than to learn a wysiwyg package which are usually complicated and limited by definition anyway...., those kind of packages are more welcome when u mastered html/css to a certain degree and need to pack some page as fast as one could, but again, there are other options even then. (but that is only my personal opinion)
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2003 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RedGoku, you can do a search on the web for alot of tutorials on
"how to make a web page". Here are a couple to start you off:

http://www.pagetutor.com/pagetutor/makapage/
http://www.wam.umd.edu/~toh/HowToMakeAWebPage.html

Even though oz1kad says "HTML knowledge is not needed to run a web-server", it is DEFINATELY a big help.
Unless you plan on getting a "pre-made" website from somewhere and putting it on your web server without
being able to make ANY changes to it, you need to learn HTML. You get much more self-satisfaction when you
customize everything to your tastes or fix every little problem that might come up.
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chance
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2003 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

olly86 wrote:
you can use Ms Frontpage or another web editor
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You got it olly86.
Frontpage does the job without the need to know html. Being a 59 yr old grandfather, I would rather play with the grandkids and play golf than learn html and so far I have managed to aviod it for 4+ years. As far as I can tell html has nothing to do with running a web server and I make changes and updates on my (research/info) site almost daily.

Using Abyss Web Server and Frontpage on a home computer is not much more complicated than composing and sending an e-mail. Sure there is a learning curve but for anyone used to Windows programs everything is familiar.
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olly86
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2003 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

chance wrote:
olly86 wrote:
you can use Ms Frontpage or another web editor
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You got it olly86.
Frontpage does the job without the need to know html.


I write my pages in pure html, that was just a suggestion :D
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chance
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2003 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="olly86
I write my pages in pure html, that was just a suggestion :D[/quote]

Was a good suggestion olly86. One of the common problems for amature/novices like me is getting answers in forums like those previous.

Question: "how do I make links?"
Answer: "learn a programing language"

Your suggestion is more immediate.
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Ailill
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2003 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another thing that helps is viewing the source code on other peoples pages... (dun just cut and past though that's kinda nasty ~laffs~). This at least gives you a rough idea of how some code is done.


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smok3
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2003 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

chance wrote:
for anyone used to Windows programs everything is familiar.
:D personaly i do not want to get to familiar.
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park
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2003 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

<a href="insert here were you want your linkt to go">Insert your link text here</a> :)
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os17fan
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2003 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I personaly learned my web design from looking at peoples source code , i didn't go to a web design class , just check out my success by checking out my web site lol 8)

Ok , maybe I used a little knowledg from my HTML REF book
http://htmlref.com

Also that PHP forms on my site are programmed by me , if you would like a personal designed script , just send me a private message , my scripts are easy to setup.
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chance
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2003 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

okay you guys, You have screwed up my comfortable, lazy and uncluttered life and shamed me into looking at html. I am in the process of trying to write a little mailto script which brings me to the question:

If I can even get this idea to work, is it considered whimpy to insert the html into MS Front to make it part of the web site?
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park
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2003 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

chance wrote:
is it considered whimpy to insert the html into MS Front to make it part of the web site?

of course not!
I don't care how it's done, as long it is beeing done correctly!
Personally I think it is very handy to know html, if you have a problem youre able to handle it yourself ;)
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