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TomBullock
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 4:07 pm    Post subject: Site loading slow. Reply with quote

Is there a way to speed my Abyss server up?
People are complaining that my site is taking to long to load.
Its not got any big files on it :?
Is it just there internet connection?
But if there is a way of speeding the server up, please let me know :D

Thanks
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Internet connection is the main culprit, then server speed.

Images can also be a problem. Make sure they are web optimised to be as small as possible.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is probably your server's internet connection, could you run a test?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rrinc wrote:
It is probably your server's internet connection, could you run a test?


speedtest.net is a very bad speed test site. You are better off finding somewhere you can download a very large file as fast as possible with multiple connections and also find an open FTP server and upload a large file to determine your maximum upload speed. However speedtest.net is an easier but less accurate way of finding your speed.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its accurate enough...

I usually use testmy.net.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rrinc wrote:
Its accurate enough...

I usually use testmy.net.


Its only accurate if:

1. You're close to the site of the server you test from
2. The server has sufficient bandwidth to give you your lines max speed

and it also isn't multi-threaded meaning you only get the speed one connection can handle, which in most cases isn't much. Which is why its more accurate to do a speed test by downloading a huge file with as many as 10 connections. Testing upload is the hardest part as you have to find an open FTP server to do it from or take a risk on the bad speedtest.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, speedtest.net is a pretty decent test, its better than many I've used. But you are right, it can only be so accurate. He should still run one though, so that we can get an idea of what kind of upload he has.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rrinc wrote:
Well, speedtest.net is a pretty decent test, its better than many I've used. But you are right, it can only be so accurate. He should still run one though, so that we can get an idea of what kind of upload he has.


If he is to run it, I would pretty much disregard the download speed.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The download speed isn't important, we just want to know his approximate upload speed.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How does that test thing work :?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TomBullock wrote:
How does that test thing work :?


Its a flash application that connects to the server you select and transfers a random piece of data to and from you as fast as possible to get your speed result.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But whats that got to do with my server? Mine is not on there.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TomBullock wrote:
But whats that got to do with my server? Mine is not on there.


Its got nothing to do with your server, its the server you click on closest to your location that it does the test from.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 3:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The reason you should run some kind of speed test is so that we can find out your approximate upload speed...this will help us know if the reason for a long load is your internet connection.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, corect me if im wrong but you say it is a bad way of testing my speed because the closest server to me could be a 1000 miles away?
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 11:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TomBullock wrote:
Oh, corect me if im wrong but you say it is a bad way of testing my speed because the closest server to me could be a 1000 miles away?


Not just that but the fact the server might not have enough bandwidth for you to check your maximum speed, its single threaded, the route the server and you might be bad... Many reasons and thats why downloading a file from a respectable source such as M$ or a file inside your ISP's network using multiple threads is a better test of the speed your line is capable of.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 3:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tom, just run the test and post the results. It will give us a ballpark figure. Perhaps your visitors are from thousands of miles away!

If you know how to use and can find an open FTP, test your upload bandwidth. Your upload speed is the key ingredient to how fast your visitors can download information from you.

The previous conversation was more techy and looking for precision.

If you run the test(s), we can probably help you more.

PS Try loading a few sites hosted by Abyss and see if they're slow. I haven't known any to be slow due to the server.
http://abyssunderground.co.uk
http://trustabyss.com
http://aprelium.com - of course!
http://stephen.calvarybucyrus.org
http://files.calvarybucyrus.org - you can easily see what my max upload bandwidth is from this site
http://www.abyss-websites.com/
http://www.whichbrowser.net/
and there are hundreds more...
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