No Javascript Forum?

Gannyaa · Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 5:17 am Post subject: No Javascript Forum?

I notice that there are a lot of different programming scripts out there, like pl or perl, php, asp, cgi and stuff. But where is the Javascript?

Nice to know Abyss doesn't need to be configured to run javascript.

I wrote a very neat little javascript and gif animation.

http://haidavision.no-ip.info/gannyaa/jsanimation/intro.htm

Also I am using the Abyss Web Server X1 edition

check out too then a javascript trick that allows me to have two virtual
websites on the same host.

http://crescentbeachhouse.no-ip.info/

Todd
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TRUSTAbyss · - Joined: 29 Oct 2003 Posts: 3752 Location: USA, GA

JavaScript is a client side technology, which means that you don't even need to
run a web server to run the scripts. PHP, Perl, and ASP scripts are not client side
scripts, and they require a web server to run.

There's no reason to even have a JavaScript forum because it's not related to
the web server's side. Nice website by the way. :-)

Gannyaa · Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 8:03 pm Post subject: Dfuh Of course ...

Of course ...

Javascript is client side. I should have reworded the vote pole question then, to what is your favorite server side scripting language?

I tend to like client side, only drawback is not being able to open and close files with javascript (except using cookies).

I could of course link javascript to MySQL am I right about that?

Glad you liked the site....

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AbyssUnderground · - Joined: 31 Dec 2004 Posts: 3855

Gannyaa,

I updated your poll title for you and removed JavaScript as an option to reflect it.
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Gannyaa · Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 8:46 pm Post subject: win98 doesn't support .ASP

My Server doesn't or won't work with .ASP stuff

It said so when I installed the server software.

So all I'm left with is PHP and Perl I guess besides Javascript....

MySQL works with PHP, Perl and Javascript I think...
MySQL could be good for keeping track of game stats...

I haven't voted yet, I am still waiting to see which is most popular....

Todd
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AbyssUnderground · - Joined: 31 Dec 2004 Posts: 3855

You keep forgetting JavaScript is client side. It cannot interact with MySQL.
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hc2995 · - Joined: 07 Aug 2006 Posts: 644 Location: Maryland, USA

php or PERL is server side so it CAN interact with MySQL javascript is handled at the persons browser so it cannot talk to MySQL
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Mikor · - Joined: 21 Aug 2006 Posts: 144 Location: Hull, England

ASP does work with Abyss - you just have to set it up yourself.
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Gannyaa · Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 5:39 pm Post subject: Why use Perl, PHP at all?

I know, Perl and PHP are pretty good,
But what real use are they doesn't html do just about the same thing.

Other than access files on the web server, HTML and javascript seem to do just fine...

DO I really need PHP or Perl or CGI?

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AbyssUnderground · - Joined: 31 Dec 2004 Posts: 3855

PHP is a scripting language. HTML is a markup language. PHP is not just HTML, its a programming language to make the user experience more interactive. You can create things with PHP that you can't in HTML. So, no, you don't need PHP since you don't seem to have the slightest clue as to what the differences are :-)
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Ralph · - Joined: 17 Sep 2006 Posts: 87

Gannyaa,

I guess it mostly depends on what you want to do or how limited you want your site to be.

To have php on the server is an awesome thing because it gives you so much more you can do. Things like, mail forms, guest books, forums, games and counters…just to name a few. Another real plus is the MySQL with the phpmyadmin set up. It is very cool to have a powerful onboard RDBMS for all kinds of things.

So I guess if you got too board with your site, you could check it out.
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Gannyaa

I guess PHP does the same or more than... CGI, Perl, ASP

So the best scripting language that does it all is PHP.

Should I also install CGI, ASP or just stick with PHP?

Todd
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Ralph · - Joined: 17 Sep 2006 Posts: 87

I went with PHP, MySQL, phpMyAdmin and I could not do ASP because I have my server set up on a 9x system and it needs the NT frame to run on. I am hoping to eventually move my server on to XP then I might get the ASP going.

However for the time being, PHP adds a lot of functionality…plus it is fun to have it even just for trying out some of the scripts that can be found on sites like hotscripts and phpnuke.
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madman1337 · - Joined: 29 Jul 2006 Posts: 182 Location: Houston, TX

truly, PHP, ASP, CGI, PERL, and Python are all good at what they do. It just depends on what YOU want to do that you make the choice which one to use. Its like C++ is to VisualBasic and so on. It just depends on what it is going to be used for.
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Gannyaa · Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 5:44 am Post subject: PHP and Javascript

By the look of this poll, PHP might be the way to go for adding:

online polls,
page counters,
picture database, slideshow

I mean I just want to install one kind of server side scripting language, learn it and work it with javascript.

Still thinkin....

Todd
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Ralph · - Joined: 17 Sep 2006 Posts: 87

Hello Gannyaa,

Yea the poll pretty much speaks for its self! No offense, but your being funny, I don’t see this as much of a decision to make. But, then, I am not you either so I will just add that I really like php and from the poll it is apparent that most all Abyss users have their servers set up to use it. Many users may also have the others as well like, Perl, Python, Ruby, and ASP. However it is PHP that works the best with the MySQL package via, phpmyadmin. So IMO this is the best place to start.

I am sure you've heard of the acronym LAMP, that has become a very popular standard or trend, shall I say! Well the M stands for MySQL and guess what the P stands for...lol..

So, in a sense with a Windows OS it would be AMP which is a good flexible standard to follow really!

Oh, I wanted to also say! I watched your friends youtube video of the house tour, you posted on the other thread....I enjoyed it.

That’s nice that youtube allows that capability for others to host videos from their site. Was it free to do that from youtube?
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Gannyaa · Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 1:36 am Post subject: YouTube is Free

Yup YouTube is Free...

Gotta like it... The organization, YouTube, even recommends embedding your YouTube videos into your website....

Nice ... Don't need the bandwidth or a new computer -- whew!

Todd
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loloyd · - Joined: 03 Mar 2006 Posts: 435 Location: Philippines

btw, may i add php is the latest to be "born" out of the list of server-side scripting technologies given above. so in a way, it attempts to get the best of all worlds from java (especially with the oop/class approach in the new php5), perl, and python - all of which were developed in open-source community environments.
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