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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2003 12:23 am    Post subject: where can i get a control panel? Reply with quote

hey, nice software, where can i get a control panel so that users can connect threw ftp to do there site?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2003 2:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Abyss is not an FTP server but http://www.phpresourceindex.com might have some good php ftp scripts. Suedo maybe but hopefully they'll work... You can also try http://www.hotscripts.com for scripts which might do the same job. Good luck.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2003 2:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

erm, no. i want it so that users can connect threw ws_ftp ( example ). it installs, i herd, and i need it.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2003 2:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try GuildFTP... Probably is one of the most popular freeware FTP servers out there... You can learn more about it at http://www.guildftpd.com

Good luck :)
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2003 2:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

uhm, do i install it and other users can connect threw it to edit their site?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2003 2:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is like Abyss but it is an FTP server. Their is much to learn using it though I know nothing about it except that it is most *probably* what you're looking for... Abyss does not handle FTP request but GuildFTP does.

I mentioned phpresourceindex and hotscripts as places that might provide a solution in uploading, downloading, etc but if you want a full blown FTP server type solution GuildFTP just might be the answer.

Good luck and please explain a little more in detail what is it you're trying to accomplish you feel can be achieved with Abyss alone if your question is not answered.

Again, good luck :)
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2003 2:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, LISTEN:

I AM HOSTING SOME PEOPLE.. THEY WANT TO USE A FTP (WS_FTP). I CANT FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO IT. I WAS TOLD GET THE CONTROL PANEL.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2003 3:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, now you listen. Abyss is not an FTP server. Their is no control panel for others to FTP to your site. Do you understand? Abyss is not an FTP server.

I am trying to help you. Yelling (Writing in all caps) is childish and is poor etiquette. You're completely out of luck if you think Abyss handles FTP request. You should read up a little more to find out how Abyss works and what it can and can not do for you.

GuildFTP has a FTP server and a FTP client. Being they also have an FTP server your friends or family should be able to connect to your site through FTP regardless of FTP client.

Do you understand? Abyss only handles web request such as http and https...

FTP is best handled by FTP servers and Abyss is *NOT* an FTP server.

Outside of suggesting you use GuildFTP to help you I have no other suggestions for you. Perhaps someone can shed more light onto this subject. For now, Good luck with your quest :)
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2003 11:06 am    Post subject: Re: where can i get a control panel? Reply with quote

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where can i get a control panel so that users can connect threw ftp to do there site?

The only control panel available, is for the web server... there is no "all-in-one" control panel covering every hosting solution out there. Every component in such a hosting solution have their configuration, so this means customizing for what ever component you choose.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2003 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yer, but how do users edit their site that i host?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2003 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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yer, but how do users edit their site that i host?

They can't... the control panel in the Abyss web server is only for the administrator. If you want to provide a control panel for your users, you must either develope this on your own... or get someone else to do it for you.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2003 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

could u make me one:| or can they connect threw a ftp?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2003 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ice` wrote:
could u make me one:| or can they connect threw a ftp?

Creating such a control panel is a rather big job, and I don't have the time to do it... they can't access any control panels through your ftp site. Your ftp site have its own configuration which is different from the Abyss.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2003 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

how will users edit their site then :?:
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2003 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ice` wrote:
how will users edit their site then :?:

They can't...
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2003 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what am i supose to do then? add every file they want to their folder?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2003 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ice` wrote:
what am i supose to do then? add every file they want to their folder?

You can install an FTP server to make that part easy... e.g.

http://www.yoursite.com/user1

in Abyss you create an alias for /user1 and link this directory to the home directory of user1 in your FTP server. That way when user1 logs on to your FTP server (which is not included in Abyss), they get to their home area... and can upload whatever file they like. These files will be available at /user1 area of your web server.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2003 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

now where getting somewhere! where can i get a ftp server?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2003 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ps. u said in Abyss you create an alias for /user1 and link this directory to the home directory of user1 in your FTP server. That way when user1 logs on to your FTP server (which is not included in Abyss), they get to their home area... and can upload whatever file they like. These files will be available at /user1 area of your web server. so how do i creat an alias also? ( im a newb :oops: )
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2003 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ice` wrote:
now where getting somewhere! where can i get a ftp server?

You can go to http://download.com/ and enter ftp server in the search window...
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2003 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmm what one do i download? ( im on xp )
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2003 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ice` wrote:
ps. u said in Abyss you create an alias for /user1 and link this directory to the home directory of user1 in your FTP server. That way when user1 logs on to your FTP server (which is not included in Abyss), they get to their home area... and can upload whatever file they like. These files will be available at /user1 area of your web server. so how do i creat an alias also? ( im a newb :oops: )

Open the control panel for Abyss and go to the Alias section. This is also explained inside the control panel or in the included documentation with Abyss.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2003 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmm what one do i download? ( im on xp ) :twisted:
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2003 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ice` wrote:
hmm what one do i download? ( im on xp )

That's for you to find out... I'm not an expert on that area, so you have to do a little research on your own...
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2003 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2003 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ice' , Users must edit their "website" locally on theircomputer through software such as FrontPage, Dreamweaver or NotePad. Through the use of 3rd party software, and FTP Server, lets say GuiddftD they can then connect to the ftp server which you'd be running on your computer, that is unrelated to Abyss Webserver, www.guildftd.com will instruct you on how to set up an FTP server, I suggest you go and pay them a visit.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2003 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok dave, ill try that, but erm, when I install it how will it let them edit their site threw ftp?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2003 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They wont be able to edit it through ftp, they'll be able to "connect" to your computer and upload their files to your webserver.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2003 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, im download guildftpd. Hopfuly it works, and I just install it?

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2003 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hold the crap on dave... Sounds like a good way of being hacked :|
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2003 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, you put it on disk and stare at it. :)

Yes, you install it.... You must follow the instructions on www.guildftpd.com website though!!!
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2003 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dude, it sounds like someone can connect to my computer, hack me, then say i dident do nothing!
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2003 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Look, if you dont want to follow my instructions, fine. Hacking is a possibility, however you should add user accounts restricting people to what they can do and where they can go. I strongly urge you to goto www.guildftpd.com and post about all this on their forum, it's not an Abyss Webserver thing!
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2003 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hate to bother you again but when i connect threw ftp and try to put a file up,


STOR homepage.php
425 Permission Denied. No Write Permission.
Transfer request completed with status: Failed, 1 SubItem(s) failed
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2003 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Once again, and for the last time, An ftp server is not an Aprelium related issue, from here on, you're on your own as far as an FTP Server is concerned, however, out of the kindness of my heart, register on the guildftpd forums (http://www.guildftpd.com/phpBB2/index.php) for further help, from now on, I'm going to ignore you in this topic for simple not reading VBGunz, myslef and many others help/advice.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2003 11:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Theirs 34 replies in total on this thread so far and to be honest you're question was answered in full by the third reply... Just because an answer is not what you want to hear doesn't it make it any less valuable or false for that matter.

The energy you put into asking these questions you could have spent into researching the answer elsewhere such as the net, Abyss and GuildFTP manuals, etc.

If learning something new intimidates you in anyway you should drop the whole FTP hosting idea as it will cause you to learn more than you think. Not everyone has the answers to your questions... The best one to answer your questions is you.

What you want is a way to provide access to your server using FTP. Abyss is not an FTP server so you'll have to find one. GuildFTP is a FTP server so theirs an answer to a part of question. Move in that direction. Take your questions to an FTP forum in regards to FTP.

Ask your friends and family what client is it they're using and what client is it they wish to use to FTP to your site... Ask them for a copy and then ask the creators of that program to help you out.

Abyss is not an FTP server or client and I can no longer offer my support for one. I hope you good luck in your quest and hope you find the answers to your question. Please no longer post FTP questions here as this is an http/s forum.

Good luck :)
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2003 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Both of you are evil. Now, I am asking because I am new. When I asked the question, I figured you'd know.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2003 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh and i have guildftp:


Hate to bother you again but when i connect threw ftp and try to put a file up,


STOR homepage.php
425 Permission Denied. No Write Permission.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2003 12:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You called us "Evil" and now you are expecting help, anyways, as I've stated repeatedly, Goto this website and ask there: www.guildftpd.com we have answered you in depth, multiple times, we dont get payed for answering stupid questions, I whish we did, I'd get £1000 just answering your posts, go and read a simple document before wasting any more of our time.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2003 12:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't sign up. Sorry for calling you evil. How do I set up the guild?
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2003 12:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sure you can register on www.guildftpd.com , goto:
http://www.guildftpd.com/phpBB2
and click "Register" on the top of the page, that's the one on the right of "Usergroups", above "Login"....This is the last time I'll say this before I strt flaming you, so take this as a warning, Register at http://www.guildftpd.com/phpBB2 your problems with Guildftp are theres, NOT ours...
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2003 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pages dont load for signup, so help me.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2003 12:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Then Consult Microsoft and/or your ISP (Internet Service Provider - You know, the people who give you the internet, but why I dont know...) They'll be able to tell you one way why it's not working....

Either way, Abyss WebServer is running fine for you, congratulations, move along, we're all done here, wether it be FTP Problems or your internet not managing to register on GuidftpD.com forums, it aint our problem, go elsewhere with these problems.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2003 12:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dave, dont boss me around. I used the email address and CENSORED up. shut up, help me, and move along.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2003 12:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ice` wrote:
dave, dont boss me around.

I'm not bossing you around, look at it this way, would you ask Microsoft for help with an Apple Mac? - I think not...

Ice` wrote:
I used the email address and CENSORED up. shut up,

the link I gave (www.guildftpd.com) is a http address (Hyper text transfer Protocal) not an E-Mail (Electronic mail address)

Ice` wrote:
help me, and move along.

So, you tell me to shut up, how do I help you then :D
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2003 12:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why is it you consciously choose to ignore our answers? Do you think we're pulling your leg or trying to joke with you? No one gets paid to answer questions but from the kindness of our hearts we choose to do so on our own time and you choose to take advantage of it...

Do you really think that if you ask enough questions the answer will suddenly change?

Your questions are a waste of time, bandwidth, energy and even sanity because the answer will not change. Abyss is not an FTP server and these forums do not answer FTP questions.

How old are you? Honest, please do not lie... It is critical we understand how old you are as it will tell us much about your position in having to deal with technology such as http and ftp, etc...

Thanks :)
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2003 12:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

please dude;\

425 Permission Denied. No Write Permission.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2003 12:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You have chosen to ignore us, we will do the same.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2003 12:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

WHAT!!!!!!1 IGNORING U? IF U IGNORE ME ILL REPORT YOU TO THE ADMIN
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2003 1:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ohh, Please do... And you'll say something like this:


Dear mr admin, Dave is ignoring me because I am beign a fool, please force him to answer me...

Thankyou...
Ice`


Anyways, in the hope of getting rid of you:
I have a vague idea of what’s causing the error, I will not say, if I were wrong i'd only be subject to more insolence from an adolescent who cant even read what we've suggested to him over the last 4 pages.
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