Changing the URL reported From Internal LAN, to External WAN

[Older guy]

I have set up the Abyss Free web-server with complete success, but for one irritating problem.

I have used Picasas to produce a file of Images I use on my web-page, in four folders. I click the thumbnail and the larger image appears fine in the Abyss system folder and when I click the image to save image location, Abyss reports my internal LAN I/P as 192. xxx.xxx.xxx. This is correct, but not what I want.

However I want to have it report my external Wan I/P as 82.xxx.xxx.xxx to allow the images to be sent to a board.

1) Is there a simple way to make Abyss report my external address when I right click the image? If I change the URL to the external I/P address leaving the rest as it is, it works fine. The images post correctly.

2) I do find the upload times slow... is that a standard issue for images of 40 to 100kb? I realize that net conditions and other factors are in play here, and that leads me to ask if the payed for version is any faster than the free package?

And a computer savvy friend has told me he can ping me... I am not transparent on the net. Is there a simple cure for this??

My system is a XP3200 IGB RAM. Window XP with all packs installed. Zoom X4 adsl modem and a Net-Lynx extender to network my two computers. I have 512 K download and 256k upload connections. I run McAfee AV, BOclean Trojan Horse scanner running behind McAfee. Sygate Personal Firewall, and Webroot Antispyware package.

Any assistance would be appreciated here.

Tom.

[MonkeyNation]

What exactly are you trying to do?
Add an imageshack-like "Upload to x.x.x.x" to the context menu? You lost me, or its too early :S

And the time it takes you to upload is only affected by your connection to the internet or intranet.
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[Older guy]

Hello,

Yes, like image stores I want to return the OUTSIDE access URL to the images on my Abyss server.

When I use Firefox to right click the full size image on display and select Copy Image Location, it returns my INSIDE LAN address:
http://192.xxx.xxx.1/k3/images/ay02.jpg etc.

However that is not accessible to anyone outside my LAN! I can see it on any of my networked computers on the bulletin board, but no one else does.

What I want and need is the action of right clicking the image to return my OUTSIDE WAN I/P address:
http://82.xxx.xxx.xxx/k3/images/ay02.jpg

I can do this manually by changing the required part of the URL each time, but it is tedious and prone to making errors! For example putting the odd comma for stops between the number groups in the URLs etc. AND it means that all the images must be renamed to give a serial sequence of numbers, so in the above URL, the end is ay03.jpg; ay04.jpg and so on. I dont want to do this.

I hope I have made myself clear now?

I am new to this and learning a lot very quickly.

Tom.

[MonkeyNation]

Ahh, copy imge location.
Well firstly, I take it your modem/router doesn't support loopback. (You dont see your site if you try to access your wan IP.)
You'll need to goto (On a standard windows XP installation.)
C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\etc and open a file entitled "hosts" with a text editor such as notepad.
Then, on a new line aside from any other entrys that may be in there, add "192.168.1.1 62.249.233.57" where 192.168.1.1 is your lan ip and 62.249.233.57 is your wan ip and hit save.
If you look at the folder after saving and you see hosts.txt, then you'll have to delete the old hosts file (Just "hosts") and rename hosts.txt to hosts.
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[Older guy]

Yes, you are correct, I do not see my site when I try to access my pages using my WAN address.

Now before I modify anything I need to know the following. Is this the correct place where I type in my LAN WAN IP's??

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# The #BEGIN_ and #END_ALTERNATE keywords allow multiple #INCLUDE
# statements to be grouped together. Any single successful include
# will cause the group to succeed.
#
# Finally, non-printing characters can be embedded in mappings by
# first surrounding the NetBIOS name in quotations, then using the
# \0xnn notation to specify a hex value for a non-printing character.
#
# The following example illustrates all of these extensions:
#
# 102.54.94.97 rhino #PRE #DOM:networking #net group's DC
# 102.54.94.102 "appname \0x14" #special app server
# 102.54.94.123 popular #PRE #source server
# 102.54.94.117 localsrv #PRE #needed for the include
#
# #BEGIN_ALTERNATE
# #INCLUDE \\localsrv\public\lmhosts
# #INCLUDE \\rhino\public\lmhosts
# #END_ALTERNATE
#
# In the above example, the "appname" server contains a special
# character in its name, the "popular" and "localsrv" server names are
# preloaded, and the "rhino" server name is specified so it can be used
# to later #INCLUDE a centrally maintained lmhosts file if the "localsrv"
# system is unavailable.
#
# Note that the whole file is parsed including comments on each lookup,
# so keeping the number of comments to a minimum will improve performance.
# Therefore it is not advisable to simply add lmhosts file entries onto the
# end of this file.
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Do I type in my date to THIS field above in notepad or elsewhere?? Save and rename?

I do not want to screw this up due to my lack of knowledge!

Thanks for all you have done... it seems I may be on the winning trail at last. Please note: assume I know NOTHING about this process and you will be entirely correct! Line by line instructions are needed. Such input will not superflous information to an experianced operator, which I am NOT! I am a novice here! Thanks.

Smiles...

Tom.

[MonkeyNation]

Nope, that doesnt look like it to me :S
This is the header to the file.

[Older guy]

Okay...

I have followed your suggested additions, stored the two addresses as you suggest, and I still see the INTERNAL I/P given on the images! Grrrr! :-)

I have copied the notepad file in part at the bottom of the page to show what I did and what I see when I have closed and reopened the Notepad file. It is the page you sent above... I have cut off the top to save space. This is the post save view by the way....
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# This file is compatible with Microsoft LAN Manager 2.x TCP/IP lmhosts
# files and offers the following extensions:
#
# #PRE
# #DOM:<domain>
# #INCLUDE <filename>
# #BEGIN_ALTERNATE
# #END_ALTERNATE
# \0xnn (non-printing character support)
#
# Following any entry in the file with the characters "#PRE" will cause
# the entry to be preloaded into the name cache. By default, entries are
# not preloaded, but are parsed only after dynamic name resolution fails.
#
# Following an entry with the "#DOM:<domain>" tag will associate the
# entry with the domain specified by <domain>. This affects how the
# browser and logon services behave in TCP/IP environments. To preload
# the host name associated with #DOM entry, it is necessary to also add a
# #PRE to the line. The <domain> is always preloaded although it will not
# be shown when the name cache is viewed.
#
# Specifying "#INCLUDE <filename>" will force the RFC NetBIOS (NBT)
# software to seek the specified <filename> and parse it as if it were
# local. <filename> is generally a UNC-based name, allowing a
# centralized lmhosts file to be maintained on a server.
# It is ALWAYS necessary to provide a mapping for the IP address of the
# server prior to the #INCLUDE. This mapping must use the #PRE directive.
# In addtion the share "public" in the example below must be in the
# LanManServer list of "NullSessionShares" in order for client machines to
# be able to read the lmhosts file successfully. This key is under
# \machine\system\currentcontrolset\services\lanmanserver\parameters\nullsessionshares
# in the registry. Simply add "public" to the list found there.
#
# The #BEGIN_ and #END_ALTERNATE keywords allow multiple #INCLUDE
# statements to be grouped together. Any single successful include
# will cause the group to succeed.
#
# Finally, non-printing characters can be embedded in mappings by
# first surrounding the NetBIOS name in quotations, then using the
# \0xnn notation to specify a hex value for a non-printing character.
#
# The following example illustrates all of these extensions:
#
# 102.54.94.97 rhino #PRE #DOM:networking #net group's DC
# 102.54.94.102 "appname \0x14" #special app server
# 102.54.94.123 popular #PRE #source server
# 102.54.94.117 localsrv #PRE #needed for the include
#
# #BEGIN_ALTERNATE
# #INCLUDE \\localsrv\public\lmhosts
# #INCLUDE \\rhino\public\lmhosts
# #END_ALTERNATE
#
# In the above example, the "appname" server contains a special
# character in its name, the "popular" and "localsrv" server names are
# preloaded, and the "rhino" server name is specified so it can be used
# to later #INCLUDE a centrally maintained lmhosts file if the "localsrv"
# system is unavailable.
#
# Note that the whole file is parsed including comments on each lookup,
# so keeping the number of comments to a minimum will improve performance.
# Therefore it is not advisable to simply add lmhosts file entries onto the
# end of this file.
192.168.xxx.xxx 82.xxx.xxx.xxx
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Where the x's are the correct numbers involved.
Should I have added a # sign before the series of numbers? I did leave a space between the two series... I assume that is correct?

[Older guy]

Oooops... Forgot to add, it is Windows XP home I am using here. All patches included.

[MonkeyNation]

[Older guy]

Okay... Thanks for your efforts.

I accessed this file:- C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\etc

It is what you said other than a swap in the order of drivers and etc. It would not find a file in the order you suggested.

I closed the notepad file and reopened it. This is the entire file! I am sure I got the correct one! Can you confirm it is the one you expected me to enter and change?

Tom.
____________________________________________________________________

# Copyright (c) 1993-1999 Microsoft Corp.
#
# This is a sample LMHOSTS file used by the Microsoft TCP/IP for Windows.
#
# This file contains the mappings of IP addresses to computernames
# (NetBIOS) names. Each entry should be kept on an individual line.
# The IP address should be placed in the first column followed by the
# corresponding computername. The address and the computername
# should be separated by at least one space or tab. The "#" character
# is generally used to denote the start of a comment (see the exceptions
# below).
#
# This file is compatible with Microsoft LAN Manager 2.x TCP/IP lmhosts
# files and offers the following extensions:
#
# #PRE
# #DOM:<domain>
# #INCLUDE <filename>
# #BEGIN_ALTERNATE
# #END_ALTERNATE
# \0xnn (non-printing character support)
#
# Following any entry in the file with the characters "#PRE" will cause
# the entry to be preloaded into the name cache. By default, entries are
# not preloaded, but are parsed only after dynamic name resolution fails.
#
# Following an entry with the "#DOM:<domain>" tag will associate the
# entry with the domain specified by <domain>. This affects how the
# browser and logon services behave in TCP/IP environments. To preload
# the host name associated with #DOM entry, it is necessary to also add a
# #PRE to the line. The <domain> is always preloaded although it will not
# be shown when the name cache is viewed.
#
# Specifying "#INCLUDE <filename>" will force the RFC NetBIOS (NBT)
# software to seek the specified <filename> and parse it as if it were
# local. <filename> is generally a UNC-based name, allowing a
# centralized lmhosts file to be maintained on a server.
# It is ALWAYS necessary to provide a mapping for the IP address of the
# server prior to the #INCLUDE. This mapping must use the #PRE directive.
# In addtion the share "public" in the example below must be in the
# LanManServer list of "NullSessionShares" in order for client machines to
# be able to read the lmhosts file successfully. This key is under
# \machine\system\currentcontrolset\services\lanmanserver\parameters\nullsessionshares
# in the registry. Simply add "public" to the list found there.
#
# The #BEGIN_ and #END_ALTERNATE keywords allow multiple #INCLUDE
# statements to be grouped together. Any single successful include
# will cause the group to succeed.
#
# Finally, non-printing characters can be embedded in mappings by
# first surrounding the NetBIOS name in quotations, then using the
# \0xnn notation to specify a hex value for a non-printing character.
#
# The following example illustrates all of these extensions:
#
# 102.54.94.97 rhino #PRE #DOM:networking #net group's DC
# 102.54.94.102 "appname \0x14" #special app server
# 102.54.94.123 popular #PRE #source server
# 102.54.94.117 localsrv #PRE #needed for the include
#
# #BEGIN_ALTERNATE
# #INCLUDE \\localsrv\public\lmhosts
# #INCLUDE \\rhino\public\lmhosts
# #END_ALTERNATE
#
# In the above example, the "appname" server contains a special
# character in its name, the "popular" and "localsrv" server names are
# preloaded, and the "rhino" server name is specified so it can be used
# to later #INCLUDE a centrally maintained lmhosts file if the "localsrv"
# system is unavailable.
#
# Note that the whole file is parsed including comments on each lookup,
# so keeping the number of comments to a minimum will improve performance.
# Therefore it is not advisable to simply add lmhosts file entries onto the
# end of this file.
192.168.xxx.xxx 82.xxx.xxx.xxx

[MonkeyNation]

I dont think so, but my OS is outdated, its the first release of windows xp pro, and im not sure that windows update updates absolutley everything, so it could well be.
Open every file in that folder and have a look around (It could be marked as a hidden file or system file so youll have to enable those options in folder options too.)
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[Older guy]

There are 4 folders. The first one as above is called:
lmhosts.
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This below is called: Networks file

# Copyright (c) 1993-1999 Microsoft Corp.
#
# This file contains network name/network number mappings for
# local networks. Network numbers are recognized in dotted decimal form.
#
# Format:
#
# <network name> <network number> [aliases...] [#<comment>]
#
# For example:
#
# loopback 127
# campus 284.122.107
# london 284.122.108

loopback 127
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This below is called Protocol File.

# Copyright (c) 1993-1999 Microsoft Corp.
#
# This file contains the Internet protocols as defined by RFC 1700
# (Assigned Numbers).
#
# Format:
#
# <protocol name> <assigned number> [aliases...] [#<comment>]

ip 0 IP # Internet protocol
icmp 1 ICMP # Internet control message protocol
ggp 3 GGP # Gateway-gateway protocol
tcp 6 TCP # Transmission control protocol
egp 8 EGP # Exterior gateway protocol
pup 12 PUP # PARC universal packet protocol
udp 17 UDP # User datagram protocol
hmp 20 HMP # Host monitoring protocol
xns-idp 22 XNS-IDP # Xerox NS IDP
rdp 27 RDP # "reliable datagram" protocol
rvd 66 RVD # MIT remote virtual disk
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And the final one is called: Services file.
# Copyright (c) 1993-1999 Microsoft Corp.
#
# This file contains port numbers for well-known services defined by IANA
#
# Format:
#
# <service name> <port number>/<protocol> [aliases...] [#<comment>]
#

echo 7/tcp
echo 7/udp
discard 9/tcp sink null
discard 9/udp sink null
systat 11/tcp users #Active users
systat 11/tcp users #Active users
daytime 13/tcp
daytime 13/udp
qotd 17/tcp quote #Quote of the day
qotd 17/udp quote #Quote of the day
chargen 19/tcp ttytst source #Character generator
chargen 19/udp ttytst source #Character generator
ftp-data 20/tcp #FTP, data
ftp 21/tcp #FTP. control
telnet 23/tcp
smtp 25/tcp mail #Simple Mail Transfer Protocol
time 37/tcp timserver
time 37/udp timserver
rlp 39/udp resource #Resource Location Protocol
nameserver 42/tcp name #Host Name Server
nameserver 42/udp name #Host Name Server
nicname 43/tcp whois
domain 53/tcp #Domain Name Server
domain 53/udp #Domain Name Server
bootps 67/udp dhcps #Bootstrap Protocol Server
bootpc 68/udp dhcpc #Bootstrap Protocol Client
tftp 69/udp #Trivial File Transfer
gopher 70/tcp
finger 79/tcp
http 80/tcp www www-http #World Wide Web
kerberos 88/tcp krb5 kerberos-sec #Kerberos
kerberos 88/udp krb5 kerberos-sec #Kerberos
hostname 101/tcp hostnames #NIC Host Name Server
iso-tsap 102/tcp #ISO-TSAP Class 0
rtelnet 107/tcp #Remote Telnet Service
pop2 109/tcp postoffice #Post Office Protocol - Version 2
pop3 110/tcp #Post Office Protocol - Version 3
sunrpc 111/tcp rpcbind portmap #SUN Remote Procedure Call
sunrpc 111/udp rpcbind portmap #SUN Remote Procedure Call
auth 113/tcp ident tap #Identification Protocol
uucp-path 117/tcp
nntp 119/tcp usenet #Network News Transfer Protocol
ntp 123/udp #Network Time Protocol
epmap 135/tcp loc-srv #DCE endpoint resolution
epmap 135/udp loc-srv #DCE endpoint resolution
netbios-ns 137/tcp nbname #NETBIOS Name Service
netbios-ns 137/udp nbname #NETBIOS Name Service
netbios-dgm 138/udp nbdatagram #NETBIOS Datagram Service
netbios-ssn 139/tcp nbsession #NETBIOS Session Service
imap 143/tcp imap4 #Internet Message Access Protocol
pcmail-srv 158/tcp #PCMail Server
snmp 161/udp #SNMP
snmptrap 162/udp snmp-trap #SNMP trap
print-srv 170/tcp #Network PostScript
bgp 179/tcp #Border Gateway Protocol
irc 194/tcp #Internet Relay Chat Protocol
ipx 213/udp #IPX over IP
ldap 389/tcp #Lightweight Directory Access Protocol
https 443/tcp MCom
https 443/udp MCom
microsoft-ds 445/tcp
microsoft-ds 445/udp
kpasswd 464/tcp # Kerberos (v5)
kpasswd 464/udp # Kerberos (v5)
isakmp 500/udp ike #Internet Key Exchange
exec 512/tcp #Remote Process Execution
biff 512/udp comsat
login 513/tcp #Remote Login
who 513/udp whod
cmd 514/tcp shell
syslog 514/udp
printer 515/tcp spooler
talk 517/udp
ntalk 518/udp
efs 520/tcp #Extended File Name Server
router 520/udp route routed
timed 525/udp timeserver
tempo 526/tcp newdate
courier 530/tcp rpc
conference 531/tcp chat
netnews 532/tcp readnews
netwall 533/udp #For emergency broadcasts
uucp 540/tcp uucpd
klogin 543/tcp #Kerberos login
kshell 544/tcp krcmd #Kerberos remote shell
new-rwho 550/udp new-who
remotefs 556/tcp rfs rfs_server
rmonitor 560/udp rmonitord
monitor 561/udp
ldaps 636/tcp sldap #LDAP over TLS/SSL
doom 666/tcp #Doom Id Software
doom 666/udp #Doom Id Software
kerberos-adm 749/tcp #Kerberos administration
kerberos-adm 749/udp #Kerberos administration
kerberos-iv 750/udp #Kerberos version IV
kpop 1109/tcp #Kerberos POP
phone 1167/udp #Conference calling
ms-sql-s 1433/tcp #Microsoft-SQL-Server
ms-sql-s 1433/udp #Microsoft-SQL-Server
ms-sql-m 1434/tcp #Microsoft-SQL-Monitor
ms-sql-m 1434/udp #Microsoft-SQL-Monitor
wins 1512/tcp #Microsoft Windows Internet Name Service
wins 1512/udp #Microsoft Windows Internet Name Service
ingreslock 1524/tcp ingres
l2tp 1701/udp #Layer Two Tunneling Protocol
pptp 1723/tcp #Point-to-point tunnelling protocol
radius 1812/udp #RADIUS authentication protocol
radacct 1813/udp #RADIUS accounting protocol
nfsd 2049/udp nfs #NFS server
knetd 2053/tcp #Kerberos de-multiplexor
man 9535/tcp #Remote Man Server

[MonkeyNation]

A lil bit of a stab in the dark here, but lets try CREATING a hosts file.
Open a blank new notepad window, insert...

[Older guy]

Hello again,

I have made and saved a file *exactly* as you suggested. It is a 1 k file installed.

After doing so, I waited a long time, tried and it still returned my internal address so rebooted the computer, and waited again, all to no avail. It still boots to my internal LAN address!! Grrrrr!

I did check and look to be sure it has saved my new file in where I wanted it to be, and indeed, it is there... all of it! It seems like a computer conspiracy is in place based in my computer!

This is so frustrating! I'm sure it is for you my unknown Computer Meister as it is for me as well.

I smile... but want to do harm to my unresponsive computer! :-)

Any more ideas will be welcome! I will try anything!

Tom.

[aprelium]

MonkeyNation,

"hosts" file maps host names (domain names) to IP addresses. It cannot map IP addresses to other IP addresses.
By the way, changes made to "hosts" file take effect immediately.
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Support Team
Aprelium - http://www.aprelium.com

[MonkeyNation]

[cchase88]

its impossible if your router doesnt support loopback, I have the same problem as you, what router do you use? I use a Belkin 4-Port Cable/DSL Router. Speaking of routers, does anyone have a router that HAS LOOPBACK ENABLED?

[AbyssUnderground]

I think ALL linksys ones are loopback enabled. I know mine is but its a cable router, not dsl.
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Andy (AbyssUnderground) (previously The Inquisitor)
www.abyssunderground.co.uk

[cchase88]

thats fine, i have Cable

[SS_Anubis]

Suprisingly few routers do. If you want any hope for a home network and a server in most cases you simply need two network cards in your server. Run the modem straight to the in one of the NICs hook the router to the other NIC. If you have winxp run "Set up a home or small office network" located in the network connections. You'll be up and running in no time.