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TRUSTAbyss
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 Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 7:08 am Post subject: HTML 4.01 or XHTML 1.0 :/ |
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What is the best one to choose ? Should I stick to HTML 4.01 Transitional or do
you think XHTML is the best , I really don't know which is the one that browsers
will understand the most , I think HTML v4.01 is the best but im not sure.
Do I use XHTML or do I use HTML 4.01 Transitional ?
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k1ll3rdr4g0n
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| Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 8:22 am Post subject: Re: HTML 4.01 or XHTML 1.0 :/ |
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| TRUSTpunk wrote: | What is the best one to choose ? Should I stick to HTML 4.01 Transitional or do
you think XHTML is the best , I really don't know which is the one that browsers
will understand the most , I think HTML v4.01 is the best but im not sure.
Do I use XHTML or do I use HTML 4.01 Transitional ?
Sincerely , TRUSTpunk |
IMO Neither. Browsers are in the middle when it comes to stuff like that, especially Firefox.
Why is everyone so concerend all of a sudden for being 100% compatiable?
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AbyssUnderground
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| Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 8:58 am Post subject: |
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People need to start being 100% because the next generation of browsers EG IE7 do not allow for any HTML errors at all. Why it is being made like this I dont know.
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MonkeyNation
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| Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 9:30 am Post subject: |
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| The Inquisitor wrote: | | People need to start being 100% because the next generation of browsers EG IE7 do not allow for any HTML errors at all. Why it is being made like this I dont know. |
Really? o_O
Im checking that out now... laptop takes a while to boot, or longhorn does.
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AbyssUnderground
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| Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 9:34 am Post subject: |
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Well, this is what Ive heard from one of my mates, he's been working with HTML since it was invented (he is a little older than me!) and even he says its a stupid idea that wont catch on.
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MonkeyNation
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| Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 9:42 am Post subject: |
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| The Inquisitor wrote: | | Well, this is what Ive heard from one of my mates, he's been working with HTML since it was invented (he is a little older than me!) and even he says its a stupid idea that wont catch on. |
Dont think thats right, at least not for the version I have of it.
All sites ive tried which tidy comes up with errors on work great in it.
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| Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 10:07 am Post subject: |
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Ah well, whos complaining then, lol. My site took a lot of effort to get it how it is now and sorting out over 250 errors is hard, i manager to get it below 190 though.
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k1ll3rdr4g0n
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| Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 10:16 am Post subject: |
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| The Inquisitor wrote: | | People need to start being 100% because the next generation of browsers EG IE7 do not allow for any HTML errors at all. Why it is being made like this I dont know. |
Ok assume your right, about 90% of the webpages out there would need to be corrected. And considering IE's reputation, I think most people would rather stick with Firefox.
Could you post some type of proof for that statement?
Because I highly doubt that Microsoft would just go "ok lets make sure that the page is 100% error free, or don't display it at all."
IE7 might just be more strict.
Oh, and remember the Civil War in the US, (you might be in the UK so you might not know about it) (its where we out lawed slavery in like a day, and the south fought the north for their right to have slaves. North won.) History shows that people don't like radical changes quickly. :\.
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| Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 10:17 am Post subject: |
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| The Inquisitor wrote: | | Ah well, whos complaining then, lol. My site took a lot of effort to get it how it is now and sorting out over 250 errors is hard, i manager to get it below 190 though. |
I got 139 warnings with tidy, but most are just things like using background='' instead of style='background: x;' and things.
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| Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 10:20 am Post subject: |
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| k1ll3rdr4g0n wrote: | | The Inquisitor wrote: | | People need to start being 100% because the next generation of browsers EG IE7 do not allow for any HTML errors at all. Why it is being made like this I dont know. |
Ok assume your right, about 90% of the webpages out there would need to be corrected. And considering IE's reputation, I think most people would rather stick with Firefox.
Could you post some type of proof for that statement?
Because I highly doubt that Microsoft would just go "ok lets make sure that the page is 100% error free, or don't display it at all."
IE7 might just be more strict.
Oh, and remember the Civil War in the US, (you might be in the UK so you might not know about it) (its where we out lawed slavery in like a day, and the south fought the north for their right to have slaves. North won.) History shows that people don't like radical changes quickly. :\. |
The only major differences between IE6 and 7 seem to be that is has improved rendering speed and improved graphics, with tabs and rss capabilities. They dont seem to have done much for the dom support.
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| Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 10:20 am Post subject: |
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Thats something I intend to change in the future when I have a little more time. I am asking my friend if he has any evidence that next generation browsers are going to be 100% compliant.
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AbyssUnderground
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| Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 10:32 am Post subject: |
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Sorry, I miss heard what my friend said, he said "the next generation of browsers is getting to be complient with the w3c HTML standard and, if your pages arent compliant, they may not display properly".
So in other words browsers are getting stricter.
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TRUSTAbyss
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| Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 11:49 am Post subject: |
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Well , I decided that I don't care what type of HTML it is as long as it sticks
to the standards , I just converted my entire website to HTML 4.01 , I don't
want to display the little banner but if you validate it , everything is working.
Do a query for http://www.trustabyss.com
http://validator.w3.org , im already ready for this lol.
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MonkeyNation
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| Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 12:21 pm Post subject: |
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| TRUSTpunk wrote: | Well , I decided that I don't care what type of HTML it is as long as it sticks
to the standards , I just converted my entire website to HTML 4.01 , I don't
want to display the little banner but if you validate it , everything is working.
Do a query for http://www.trustabyss.com
http://validator.w3.org , im already ready for this lol.
Sincerely , TRUSTpunk |
Yeah, my tidy firefox extension is a browser side version of that validator, 0 errors or warnings.
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Arctic
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| Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 2:51 am Post subject: |
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| Transitional. If the browser can read it, then alls good imho. |
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