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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 6:09 pm    Post subject: Slow speeds Reply with quote

I'm running Win 2K Pro with all the up-to-date patches, and using Abyss X1 to run an small intranet server on port 2080 on a LAN (not available to the external world). When I view a page from the host machine it's fine and very quick, but when one of the other machines tries to connect it can take up to 30secs for the progress bar on IE to complete and then the page is served instantly. Can anyone tell me whether it's the PHP in my pages (I have PHP installed and setup) thats causing it or whether it's something else. The pages are only about 50k in size too so not that big.

I knocked the LAN down to two machines to see if it was the fact that 4 machines where running and it still seemed to stall.

Anyone got any ideas?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do the other people use 56k thing?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

or 28k?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No we're all on a router connected at 100mbps. This is what I can't understand. All the other machines use 2K Pro with the up-to-date patches too.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry man... I dont know, maybe someone does..
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How do you connect to your intranet Abyss?
Did you enter the URL LAN IP of your Abyss with port 2080 ?
How did you setup your LAN network?

Can you provide ipconfig /all from abyss box?
What other Windows your using to browse to your Windows 2000Pro with Abyss?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The LAN is basically a 4 port router that connects directly to the internet and all the machines are plugged into it and can all see one another.

I've tried connecting to the server by both the local IP address and the machine name with 2080 bolted on the end and both results are the same.

As for doing the 'ipconfig /all' I don't know how in X1 sorry. I can do it in DOS if you want it.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 10, 2004 1:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am not sure what really causing your network connection to be slow by just browsing from your browser for intranet webpages.

Ok, now I have some better understanding of your topology.
Q1 - You indicate all your LAN PC can communicate or see each other. How fast it transfer file back and forth between Abyss PC and other LAN PC?
Q2 - Can you try just having a simply HTML page and see if it does the same without php?
Q3 - Where your php connect to? Locally or remote or from the same PC where Abyss is residing?
Q4 - How about browing remote webpage? Does it display normally or slow?

I am not sure what you mean by this -
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I've tried connecting to the server by both the local IP address and the machine name with 2080 bolted on the end and both results are the same.

From the LAN PC and to the Browswer URL -
Abyss BOX - ie - 192.168.1.101:2080
Make sure the abyss is still on or listen to port 2080 and not your console.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 10, 2004 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Q1 - The speed is fine, Transferred a 700MB file in around 3 mins and that was while two of us were surfing through a few webpages and the machine receiving it was playing a pretty intensive game.

Q2 - Done it with a simple HTML page (just a 'Hello World' one) and it's still the same.

Q3 - The PHP is on the Abyss machine, but on a different partition. Abyss is ran on a storage partition and the PHP is on the same partition that Win2K runs from.

Q4 - Remote webpages are definitely faster. Most come up with a second of being accessed.

Btw - the host machine is a 900mhz Athlon with seperate cards for things lke sound and video etc and the network connection is 'Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast Ethernet NIC'. Hope that helps
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2004 7:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Slow speeds Reply with quote

AntiX,

Are other machine configured to contact a proxy when using their browser?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How interesting.
Do you have some kind of tools / utils on the Abyss Box, ie Proxies / Firewall?

Go into Windows DOS and enter ipconfig /all from Abyss box and another LAN PC. I just want to check and see anything that I can catch that maybe doing something.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2004 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IPConfig from the Abyss Box...

Host Name : fresha
Primary DNS Suffix : (blank)
Node Type : Broadcast
IP Routing enabled : No
WINS Proxy enable : No

Ethernet adapter local area connection :

Connection-specific DNS Suffix : (blank)
Description : Realtek TRL0139/810x Family Fast Ethernet NIC
Physical address : 00-02-44-27-B8-E1
DHCP Enabled : Yes
IP Address : 10.0.0.13
Subnet Mask : 255.0.0.0
Default Gateway : 10.0.0.2
DHCP Server : 10.0.0.2
DNS Servers : 10.0.0.2
Lease obtained : 13 July 2004 17:26:16
Lease expires : 14 July 2004 17:26:16

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IP Config from the other machine...

Host Name : arwen
Primary DNS Suffix : (blank)
Node Type : Broadcast
IP Routing enabled : No
WINS Proxy enable : No

Ethernet adapter local area connection :

Connection-specific DNS Suffix : (blank)
Description : Realtek TRL0139/810x Family Fast Ethernet NIC
Physical address : 00-90-47-05-B0-A2
DHCP Enabled : Yes
IP Address : 10.0.0.9
Subnet Mask : 255.0.0.0
Default Gateway : 10.0.0.2
DHCP Server : 10.0.0.2
DNS Servers : 10.0.0.2
Lease obtained : 13 July 2004 08:14:38
Lease expires : 14 July 2004 08:14:38

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As far as I know there are no proxies on any of the machines for outgoing web connections. All the machines use Sygate Personal Firewall Pro though.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2004 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

By the way, it does it even if we turn the firewalls off in case thats interfering with anything.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2004 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From your IPCONFIG - I do not see anything out of extrordinary or obvious.
Can you do one more thing. You say your SyGate Firewall is turn-off. Can you try uninstall to see if improve? A user have a ZoneAlarm that was install and need to be uninstall to work properly. Try disable / turn-off will not make any differences until uninstall completely. Sometime firewall is stubborn. If uninstall still fail to improve, I running out of option.

Or you can try microsoft KB
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;325487
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2004 1:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AntiX,

Can you please do a ping inside your network from the client machine to the server machine by executing in a command line window from the client:

Code:
ping 10.0.0.13


What is the output your get? It will help us see how fast is your LAN connection.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 17, 2004 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It looks like it's the Sygate firewall thats causing it and I'm not happy about leaving machines on 24/7 without a firewall. So we'll either be putting up with a lot of lag or just not having an intranet :(.

Have tried configuring it, but not having any of it so no worries. Thanks for you help guys.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 19, 2004 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ahhh...... Firewall again.

Your alternative is to try setting up another PC that will mainly deal with Firewall or have a appliance version? Do you have a router that also have a true basic firewall built-in? You simply need to enable / open certain port and nothing else.

Software firewall is cheap but sometime tricky at time. Especially at time when you accidentially click on OK or Deny without noticing until too late.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2004 6:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or you could all be barking up the wrong tree and that it is IE that is having fun loading all the images first before displaying.

If a given webpage's content is enclosed in a table, most browsers won't display the content until the images are downloaded UNLESS all width and height attributes are present.
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